Why not let the contestants decide deadlock - The X Factor

DUNDEEBOY · 10-11-2009, 11:36

They could have a live vote amongst themselves.

Although it could be another deadlock

Chisato Geeste · 10-11-2009, 11:39

I think they used to have something similar on Fame Academy- fellow contestants saving an act in the bottom 3.

The Lost Boy · 10-11-2009, 11:42

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Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY

They could have a live vote amongst themselves.

Although it could be another deadlock

OR

Whoevers in the bottom 2 have to 'get it on'. The first one to pull away in disgust is out.

LoveBug_x · 10-11-2009, 11:43

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Originally Posted by The Lost Boy

OR

Whoevers in the bottom 2 have to 'get it on'. The first one to pull away in disgust is out.

LMAO!

Distoney · 10-11-2009, 11:45

I think that would be a very good idea. That way, the save or go to deadlock might be a lot fairer.

ValLambert · 10-11-2009, 11:46

They could make them fight it out or leg wrestle. Anything would be more interesting than the faux drama.

purplekat049 · 10-11-2009, 12:53

didnt this happen in fame academy
the bottom 2 would be put to the other contestants for them to choose who stays and who goes

Ellef · 10-11-2009, 13:24

That's not a bad idea actually. There could be a secret ballot after the live show Saturday among the contestants, with the result announced on the Sunday show.

It'd make deadlock look boring by comparison.

Gotham · 10-11-2009, 13:27

Good idea, I'd take anything over the populist voting of the public.

cr120575 · 10-11-2009, 13:29

That would surely only make more rumours of contestants conspiring against each other and fabled pacts in the house.

It would have to be a snap decision on the show. I like the re-opening of the phone lines at the beginning of the Sunday show (after the group mime), and closing after the first guest act is done. Votes can be tallies while the 2nd guest act performs, then annonced.

Simples.

kyri · 10-11-2009, 13:40

What on earth?

Deadlock goes to the public vote because the public are watching from home and ultimately the public will be buying the records and voting for who they like!

The Lens · 10-11-2009, 13:43

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Originally Posted by cr120575

That would surely only make more rumours of contestants conspiring against each other and fabled pacts in the house.

It would have to be a snap decision on the show. I like the re-opening of the phone lines at the beginning of the Sunday show (after the group mime), and closing after the first guest act is done. Votes can be tallies while the 2nd guest act performs, then annonced.

Simples.

Yes, but re-opening the lines for who?

I believe completely in re-opening the lines for the bottom two, but only if deadlocked.

And that wouldn't be known until the final part of the show...

vadvad · 10-11-2009, 13:47

The contestants constantly go on about how they're "fighting" to stay in the competition, so why don't they make them put their money where there mouth is?

Make whoever is in the bottom 2 fight it out to decide who goes through...Whoever is floored first gets eliminated.

cr120575 · 10-11-2009, 14:06

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Originally Posted by The Lens

Yes, but re-opening the lines for who?

I believe completely in re-opening the lines for the bottom two, but only if deadlocked.

And that wouldn't be known until the final part of the show...

It means doing away with the judges vote. Bottom 2 is announced at the start of the Sunday show, they do their sing off song, lines are reopened. 2 guest acts perform, results announced. Make the sunday show something other than a platform for Simon/Cheryl/Louis to launch singles/albums from...

bbean · 10-11-2009, 14:30

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Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY

They could have a live vote amongst themselves.

Although it could be another deadlock

Like the judges, they could have another agenda that'd be to their own benefit and not vote fairly.

Perhaps a larger voting panel selected randomely from the audience to decide the fate of the bottom two would be representative of what listeners want to see and hear more of and a possible solution to end the judges voting with their own agendas.

ValLambert · 10-11-2009, 14:38

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Originally Posted by cr120575

That would surely only make more rumours of contestants conspiring against each other and fabled pacts in the house.
It would have to be a snap decision on the show. I like the re-opening of the phone lines at the beginning of the Sunday show (after the group mime), and closing after the first guest act is done. Votes can be tallies while the 2nd guest act performs, then annonced.

Simples.

Excellent idea. Stick a camera in the house and shove it live on ITV3. It can fill in the gaps till BB.

bbean · 10-11-2009, 14:46

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Originally Posted by cr120575

That would surely only make more rumours of contestants conspiring against each other and fabled pacts in the house.

It would have to be a snap decision on the show. I like the re-opening of the phone lines at the beginning of the Sunday show (after the group mime), and closing after the first guest act is done. Votes can be tallies while the 2nd guest act performs, then annonced.

Simples.

To announce the results at the very start of the Sunday show of the bottom two from Saturday, let them sing their song then reopen the phone lines only for those two would work for me. The show then proceeds with guest artists etc then at the end the one with the lowest public vote is out of the competition.

tommygunner · 10-11-2009, 15:21

Dermot: "Tonight in London, mud wrestling to decide who gets through to the next round, MISS FRANK versus KANDY RAIN!"

Lizzy11268 · 10-11-2009, 15:33

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Originally Posted by bbean

To announce the results at the very start of the Sunday show of the bottom two from Saturday, let them sing their song then reopen the phone lines only for those two would work for me. The show then proceeds with guest artists etc then at the end the one with the lowest public vote is out of the competition.

Thats the most sensible plan I have heard to make it "fair" although, to me, it is fair enough when the lowest placed contestant goes home.

It would stop all the furore - And you know what, if they had done this, there is STILL no guarantee that Lucie would have stayed. Some people just can't seem to get their heads round the fact that Jedward have actual support.

galena · 10-11-2009, 15:44

Can't see Simon agreeing to this TBH as it would mean a loss of control over the outcome. The judges vote gives him a safety net to rescue acts who might end up in the bottom two against his wishes in the earlier stages of the show. And he may well be right, if viewers got what they thought they wanted the show might become unwatchable (I am thinking of the way all the interesting characters get voted out in shows like BB)

I doubt that he and the show's producers will see this as an actual problem that needs resolving unless people do actually stop watching and voting in sizeable numbers because of unpopular decisions. In reality I expect Jedwardgate (as possibly no-one but me is calling it

) will increase viewing figures and interest in the show.

10-11-2009, 11:36	#1
DUNDEEBOY Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,425	Why not let the contestants decide deadlock They could have a live vote amongst themselves. Although it could be another deadlock

10-11-2009, 11:39	#2
Chisato Geeste Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chair Posts: 14,392	I think they used to have something similar on Fame Academy- fellow contestants saving an act in the bottom 3.

10-11-2009, 11:45	#5
Distoney Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 625	I think that would be a very good idea. That way, the save or go to deadlock might be a lot fairer.

10-11-2009, 11:46	#6
ValLambert Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,720	They could make them fight it out or leg wrestle. Anything would be more interesting than the faux drama.

10-11-2009, 12:53	#7
purplekat049 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 1,094	didnt this happen in fame academy the bottom 2 would be put to the other contestants for them to choose who stays and who goes

10-11-2009, 13:24	#8
Ellef Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Services: John & Edward rock ... awkwardly. Posts: 1,621	That's not a bad idea actually. There could be a secret ballot after the live show Saturday among the contestants, with the result announced on the Sunday show. It'd make deadlock look boring by comparison.

10-11-2009, 13:27	#9
Gotham Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 378	Good idea, I'd take anything over the populist voting of the public.

10-11-2009, 13:29	#10
cr120575 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 212	That would surely only make more rumours of contestants conspiring against each other and fabled pacts in the house. It would have to be a snap decision on the show. I like the re-opening of the phone lines at the beginning of the Sunday show (after the group mime), and closing after the first guest act is done. Votes can be tallies while the 2nd guest act performs, then annonced. Simples.

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kyri Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Gender: Not specified Services: Team Walsh ~ John and Edward Posts: 20,561	What on earth? Deadlock goes to the public vote because the public are watching from home and ultimately the public will be buying the records and voting for who they like!

10-11-2009, 13:47	#13
vadvad Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,332	The contestants constantly go on about how they're "fighting" to stay in the competition, so why don't they make them put their money where there mouth is? Make whoever is in the bottom 2 fight it out to decide who goes through...Whoever is floored first gets eliminated.

10-11-2009, 15:21	#18
tommygunner Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 684	Dermot: "Tonight in London, mud wrestling to decide who gets through to the next round, MISS FRANK versus KANDY RAIN!"

10-11-2009, 15:44	#20
galena Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,385	Can't see Simon agreeing to this TBH as it would mean a loss of control over the outcome. The judges vote gives him a safety net to rescue acts who might end up in the bottom two against his wishes in the earlier stages of the show. And he may well be right, if viewers got what they thought they wanted the show might become unwatchable (I am thinking of the way all the interesting characters get voted out in shows like BB) I doubt that he and the show's producers will see this as an actual problem that needs resolving unless people do actually stop watching and voting in sizeable numbers because of unpopular decisions. In reality I expect Jedwardgate (as possibly no-one but me is calling it ) will increase viewing figures and interest in the show.