If you really want to hurt Cowell - The X Factor

mallaka · 10-11-2009, 12:49

1. Vote for the Twins. He really doesn't expect them to win because they were in the bottom 2. I wold love to see his face if they won. He knows that they would be disasterous if they won for the single and for the programme. How funny!

2. Don't watch the show. Viewing figures in decline will be the strongest message you can send.

BTW..I am sick of hearing people say that Lucie was bottom so the fair result was reached - that's not the point!!!

The point is that Cowell spoon feeds us his opinions that are totally staged in order to sway the way we think. Then when he sees a money making oppurtunity he switches his views - that is treating the public as his puppets and he should be made to remember that it is the public that will inevitably control the outcome of this programme and not him.

backofsofatvfan · 10-11-2009, 12:52

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Originally Posted by mallaka

1. Vote for the Twins. He really doesn't expect them to win because they were in the bottom 2. I wold love to see his face if they won. He knows that they would be disasterous if they won for the single and for the programme. How funny!

2. Don't watch the show. Viewing figures in decline will be the strongest message you can send.

BTW..I am sick of hearing people say that Lucie was bottom so the fair result was reached - that's not the point!!!

The point is that Cowell spoon feeds us his opinions that are totally staged in order to sway the way we think. Then when he sees a money making oppurtunity he switches his views - that is treating the public as his puppets and he should be made to remember that it is the public that will inevitably control the outcome of this programme and not him.

No, I think it's quite simply that he didn't care, he didn't like either act, didn't think either could win so why not let the public decide, if he said he didn't care and then chose people would be outraged that their vote counted for nothing!

mallaka · 10-11-2009, 12:55

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Originally Posted by backofsofatvfan

No, I think it's quite simply that he didn't care, he didn't like either act, didn't think either could win so why not let the public decide, if he said he didn't care and then chose people would be outraged that their vote counted for nothing!

Did you not watch how he ridiculed the twins in the first few weeks and once their popularity took hold he changed his mind to quite liking them?

jelly bean · 10-11-2009, 12:56

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Originally Posted by mallaka

Did you not watch how he ridiculed the twins in the first few weeks and once their popularity took hold he changed his mind to quite liking them?

He did this with Diana last year as well

backofsofatvfan · 10-11-2009, 12:57

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Originally Posted by mallaka

Did you not watch how he ridiculed the twins in the first few weeks and once their popularity took hold he changed his mind to quite liking them?

But the press has done the same thing, so have I, so has my flatmate. Are people not allowed to change their opinions? I think the twins are 'growers', the more you watch, the more you like, there are certainly alot of people I've spoken to that agree.

BantamBelle · 10-11-2009, 13:02

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Originally Posted by mallaka

1. Vote for the Twins. He really doesn't expect them to win because they were in the bottom 2. I wold love to see his face if they won. He knows that they would be disasterous if they won for the single and for the programme. How funny!

2. Don't watch the show. Viewing figures in decline will be the strongest message you can send.

BTW..I am sick of hearing people say that Lucie was bottom so the fair result was reached - that's not the point!!!

The point is that Cowell spoon feeds us his opinions that are totally staged in order to sway the way we think. Then when he sees a money making oppurtunity he switches his views - that is treating the public as his puppets and he should be made to remember that it is the public that will inevitably control the outcome of this programme and not him.

Cowell would LOVE the twins to make the final. Imagine the publicity the controversy would cause i - the viewing figures would be huge. Even if they won he still wouldn't mind - he'd just feign disbelief and fury, release a couple of novelty songs with them and then just sign up whichever one of the 'real' acts he likes most anyway.

The ONLY way to hurt Cowell is not to vote at all or just switch off.

LolWtf · 10-11-2009, 13:04

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Originally Posted by backofsofatvfan

But the press has done the same thing, so have I, so has my flatmate. Are people not allowed to change their opinions? I think the twins are 'growers', the more you watch, the more you like, there are certainly alot of people I've spoken to that agree.

Totally agree I was just going to say I've changed my mind on them so why can't Simon

mallaka · 10-11-2009, 13:05

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Originally Posted by BantamBelle

Cowell would LOVE the twins to make the final. Imagine the publicity the controversy would cause i - the viewing figures would be huge. Even if they won he still wouldn't mind - he'd just feign disbelief and fury, release a couple of novelty songs with them and then just sign up whichever one of the 'real' acts he likes most anyway.

The ONLY way to hurt Cowell is not to vote at all or just switch off.

I'm not so sure but you may be right. I think to be sure we just have to not vote and not watch if we feel annoyed by the way things have happened.

Queen Maeve · 10-11-2009, 13:05

If you are really angry, dont watch and dont vote.

Simon doesn't give two fiddlers, if the Twins win he'll honour their prize, his company are hardly loosing as they rake in revenue from the show.

POLO 1 · 10-11-2009, 13:11

I hope that viewers will drop in their millions after Sunday's result. Viewers should stop watching the show & not have anything to do with it. Furhermore, eeing as Mr. Cowell has destroyed the once coverted Xmas No.1 battle, music fans should go out and buy whatever is closest to beating the self-obsessed arrogant idiot. Go now, Mr Cowell - do us all a favour & disappear forever

Snozzcumber · 10-11-2009, 13:21

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Originally Posted by POLO 1

I hope that viewers will drop in their millions after Sunday's result. Viewers should stop watching the show & not have anything to do with it. Furhermore, eeing as Mr. Cowell has destroyed the once coverted Xmas No.1 battle, music fans should go out and buy whatever is closest to beating the self-obsessed arrogant idiot. Go now, Mr Cowell - do us all a favour & disappear forever

Viewing figures will be roughly the same this week, possibly even higher.

I think he may have damaged the credibility of the show in the long run, however. It'll be interesting to see if as many people bother with X-Factor next year.

Lucylock · 10-11-2009, 13:23

I think Simon is a fan of the twins, so he will probably be pleased if you vote for them

pau11n3 · 10-11-2009, 13:31

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Originally Posted by mallaka

1. Vote for the Twins. He really doesn't expect them to win because they were in the bottom 2. I wold love to see his face if they won. He knows that they would be disasterous if they won for the single and for the programme. How funny!

2. Don't watch the show. Viewing figures in decline will be the strongest message you can send.

BTW..I am sick of hearing people say that Lucie was bottom so the fair result was reached - that's not the point!!!

The point is that Cowell spoon feeds us his opinions that are totally staged in order to sway the way we think. Then when he sees a money making oppurtunity he switches his views - that is treating the public as his puppets and he should be made to remember that it is the public that will inevitably control the outcome of this programme and not him.

firstly...it IS the point...Lucy didnt get the votes..so live with it..nowt is bringing her back and all this booo hooo hooo its not fair is pathetic..people should have picked up the phones.... im really p'sd off with all this "its not fair" crap! it was fair!!! deal with it!

and Simon Cowell does NOT influence my vote..i have my own mind..if i like a singer i will vote for them...i dont give a crap if Simon likes them or not.....

just had to get that off my chest!

ForeverBeret · 10-11-2009, 13:37

Don't boycott the show. Boycott its products. Don't buy the Christmas single or the charity single. Don't buy anything by Leona or Alexandra. Don't buy anything on the Syco label. If you own anything put out by Syco, return it to them, make it plain that you will not be buying anything from them in future, and demand your money back. (You won't get it, but demand anyway).

backofsofatvfan · 10-11-2009, 13:41

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Originally Posted by ForeverBeret

Don't boycott the show. Boycott its products. Don't buy the Christmas single or the charity single. Don't buy anything by Leona or Alexandra. Don't buy anything on the Syco label. If you own anything put out by Syco, return it to them, make it plain that you will not be buying anything from them in future, and demand your money back. (You won't get it, but demand anyway).

I don't think boycotting a charity single will help in any way shape or form, however you feel about the X-Factor/SyCo records/Simon Cowell, any worthwhile charity deserves money.

EDIT: I've just looked at what the single is and I HATE the song but will buy it for the charity aspect, and think others should do the same.

jon_ellacott · 10-11-2009, 13:44

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Originally Posted by POLO 1

I hope that viewers will drop in their millions after Sunday's result. Viewers should stop watching the show & not have anything to do with it. Furhermore, eeing as Mr. Cowell has destroyed the once coverted Xmas No.1 battle, music fans should go out and buy whatever is closest to beating the self-obsessed arrogant idiot. Go now, Mr Cowell - do us all a favour & disappear forever

You are talking about roughly 13-14million people tuning in each week. A drop of a couple of million will not do the show any harm. From what I can tell so far from facebook groups and such, that a boycott won't really do much, as only a few thousand people are threatning to do this.

ForeverBeret · 10-11-2009, 13:46

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Originally Posted by backofsofatvfan

I don't think boycotting a charity single will help in any way shape or form, however you feel about the X-Factor/SyCo records/Simon Cowell, any worthwhile charity deserves money.

Boycott the charity single but give the money you would have spent on it directly to the charity then.

GetMeOuttaHere · 10-11-2009, 13:49

You can't in a very short space of time hurt the man. To get the message across to him you'd have to be prepared to act over a long period of time, people either won't or can't be bothered. The man is too big to be taken down quickly.

I bet he's sitting in his car, office, or home chuckling away. He who laughs last, laughs the longest. My money, if I was a betting person, would be on Simon.

backofsofatvfan · 10-11-2009, 13:50

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Originally Posted by ForeverBeret

Boycott the charity single but give the money you would have spent on it directly to the charity then.

I think you'll find the reason this sort of thing is needed is because people DON'T give money directly to the charity.

galena · 10-11-2009, 13:54

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Originally Posted by BantamBelle

Cowell would LOVE the twins to make the final. Imagine the publicity the controversy would cause i - the viewing figures would be huge. Even if they won he still wouldn't mind - he'd just feign disbelief and fury, release a couple of novelty songs with them and then just sign up whichever one of the 'real' acts he likes most anyway.

The ONLY way to hurt Cowell is not to vote at all or just switch off.

I can't understand why anyone would still believe that voting for the twins is a way to 'hurt' Cowell given that he has shown his true colours very plainly by keeping them in the show. Anyone who has been paying attention will have realised for some time that the whole 'hating the twins' was simply a way to drum up publicity and votes, but to me at least his decision last week puts it beyond doubt. It's like trying to 'hurt' the manager of your local supermarket by spending money there

amelie74 · 10-11-2009, 13:57

Simon Cowell loves the twins - they are a great source of publicity for the show which otherwisw would have been a bit dull this year. SC is always the winner whichever act wins the show.

If people choose to vote for the twins because they like them best that's fine - but spending money in the hope it will p*ss off SC is a a bit silly imo because he wants them there as long as possible. I doubt he'd be gutted if they won the thing - it's a bit of a joke this year anyway and he can still promote his chosen one whilst makng whatever he can out of the twins.

JRM4833 · 10-11-2009, 13:58

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Originally Posted by pau11n3

firstly...it IS the point...Lucy didnt get the votes..so live with it..nowt is bringing her back and all this booo hooo hooo its not fair is pathetic..people should have picked up the phones.... im really p'sd off with all this "its not fair" crap! it was fair!!! deal with it!

and Simon Cowell does NOT influence my vote..i have my own mind..if i like a singer i will vote for them...i dont give a crap if Simon likes them or not.....

just had to get that off my chest!

So do you support abandoning the "sing-off" and just having the act with the least votes go?

I can't see the point of a sing-off myself if it comes down to that.

And imagine this scenario...one of Simon Cowell's lot are up for the vote, and they completely outclass who they are up against in the sing-off. It comes down to Louis Walsh to nominate his choice with Simon's act 2-1 up in votes. Louis decides to let the public decide and it turns out Simon's boy gets chucked out.

You would hope, after the weekend's events, that Simon Coweel would accept this graciously. However, I suspect he wouldn't!

slappers r us · 10-11-2009, 14:00

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Originally Posted by POLO 1

I hope that viewers will drop in their millions after Sunday's result. Viewers should stop watching the show & not have anything to do with it. Furhermore, eeing as Mr. Cowell has destroyed the once coverted Xmas No.1 battle, music fans should go out and buy whatever is closest to beating the self-obsessed arrogant idiot. Go now, Mr Cowell - do us all a favour & disappear forever

so you want the Xfactor to end

If you hate it so much dont watch it

watch SCD instead

researchshirley · 10-11-2009, 14:03

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Originally Posted by POLO 1

I hope that viewers will drop in their millions after Sunday's result. Viewers should stop watching the show & not have anything to do with it. Furhermore, eeing as Mr. Cowell has destroyed the once coverted Xmas No.1 battle, music fans should go out and buy whatever is closest to beating the self-obsessed arrogant idiot. Go now, Mr Cowell - do us all a favour & disappear forever

He'd be SOOOO upset if he knew you felt like that. Honestly - he'd be in therapy for years.

slappers r us · 10-11-2009, 14:04

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Originally Posted by JRM4833

So do you support abandoning the "sing-off" and just having the act with the least votes go?

I can't see the point of a sing-off myself if it comes down to that.

And imagine this scenario...one of Simon Cowell's lot are up for the vote, and they completely outclass who they are up against in the sing-off. It comes down to Louis Walsh to nominate his choice with Simon's act 2-1 up in votes. Louis decides to let the public decide and it turns out Simon's boy gets chucked out.

You would hope, after the weekend's events, that Simon Coweel would accept this graciously. However, I suspect he wouldn't!

abandon the sing off

Its only 10 mins of the show at most and only gives the two lowest acts another chance to show agents that they might be some good at some point
They could always fill the time with another star act or one of last years acts

10-11-2009, 12:49	#1
mallaka Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,105	If you really want to hurt Cowell 1. Vote for the Twins. He really doesn't expect them to win because they were in the bottom 2. I wold love to see his face if they won. He knows that they would be disasterous if they won for the single and for the programme. How funny! 2. Don't watch the show. Viewing figures in decline will be the strongest message you can send. BTW..I am sick of hearing people say that Lucie was bottom so the fair result was reached - that's not the point!!! The point is that Cowell spoon feeds us his opinions that are totally staged in order to sway the way we think. Then when he sees a money making oppurtunity he switches his views - that is treating the public as his puppets and he should be made to remember that it is the public that will inevitably control the outcome of this programme and not him.

10-11-2009, 13:11	#10
POLO 1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Doncaster Services: Freeview Posts: 260	My Opinion I hope that viewers will drop in their millions after Sunday's result. Viewers should stop watching the show & not have anything to do with it. Furhermore, eeing as Mr. Cowell has destroyed the once coverted Xmas No.1 battle, music fans should go out and buy whatever is closest to beating the self-obsessed arrogant idiot. Go now, Mr Cowell - do us all a favour & disappear forever

10-11-2009, 13:05	#9
Queen Maeve Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Golden Lion Hotel Posts: 8,633	If you are really angry, dont watch and dont vote. Simon doesn't give two fiddlers, if the Twins win he'll honour their prize, his company are hardly loosing as they rake in revenue from the show.

10-11-2009, 13:23	#12
Lucylock Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 744	I think Simon is a fan of the twins, so he will probably be pleased if you vote for them

10-11-2009, 13:37	#14
ForeverBeret Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 353	Don't boycott the show. Boycott its products. Don't buy the Christmas single or the charity single. Don't buy anything by Leona or Alexandra. Don't buy anything on the Syco label. If you own anything put out by Syco, return it to them, make it plain that you will not be buying anything from them in future, and demand your money back. (You won't get it, but demand anyway).

10-11-2009, 13:49	#18
GetMeOuttaHere Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Gender: Female Location: CBeebies Services: Teaching you to singalong to Timmy Time Baahh Posts: 7,241	You can't in a very short space of time hurt the man. To get the message across to him you'd have to be prepared to act over a long period of time, people either won't or can't be bothered. The man is too big to be taken down quickly. I bet he's sitting in his car, office, or home chuckling away. He who laughs last, laughs the longest. My money, if I was a betting person, would be on Simon.

10-11-2009, 13:57	#21
amelie74 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,009	Simon Cowell loves the twins - they are a great source of publicity for the show which otherwisw would have been a bit dull this year. SC is always the winner whichever act wins the show. If people choose to vote for the twins because they like them best that's fine - but spending money in the hope it will p*ss off SC is a a bit silly imo because he wants them there as long as possible. I doubt he'd be gutted if they won the thing - it's a bit of a joke this year anyway and he can still promote his chosen one whilst makng whatever he can out of the twins.