[dsimiller]

Hi,
Dont often visit this section of DS forums,so apologies if this has already been asked.Does anyone own the Dambusters Bluray,and if so do you have to manually alter the picture size every time?
I have to,every time as it shows in 4.3.This is the only bluray in my collection where I have to do this.
Regards

[davidweller]

According to IMDB (and my DVD) The Dam Busters was filmed 4:3.

[dsimiller]

Hello,
Thanks for your reply,but I've got old films (like Hue and Cry) filmed in 1948 and 4.3 which fill the screen,but this one does not,until I alter the picture size of my Sony tv.Not a big issue,but mildly annoying.Just laziness I suppose.
Regards

[titcaptain]

Originally Posted by dsimiller

Hello,
Thanks for your reply,but I've got old films (like Hue and Cry) filmed in 1948 and 4.3 which fill the screen,but this one does not,until I alter the picture size of my Sony tv.Not a big issue,but mildly annoying.Just laziness I suppose.
Regards

A 4:3 film will NOT fill your screen , which is 16:9 unless you play about with the picture

If a film was made in 4:3 thats how its designed to be seen.
If you distort the image like you are then you are losing both quality and picture area.

If Hue and Cry fills the screen then you either have it on dvd or the Bluray is not displaying the correct ratio.

All Blurays (and all HD) is 16:9 so any 4:3 material will have sidebars as part of the picture (like the Star Trek series).

Blurays are designed to be watched without any messing about with the ratio of your tv .

What will you make of Snow White on Bluray?

There is very little 4:3 material out on Bluray so far .
Dambusters ,Snow White , Pinocchio ,Star Trek tv series , The Prisoner tv series are all I can think of so thats why none of your other Blurays have this issue

[Al_T3D]

Originally Posted by titcaptain

A 4:3 film will NOT fill your screen , which is 16:9 unless you play about with the picture

If a film was made in 4:3 thats how its designed to be seen.
If you distort the image like you are then you are losing both quality and picture area.

If Hue and Cry fills the screen then you either have it on dvd or the Bluray is not displaying the correct ratio.

All Blurays (and all HD) is 16:9 so any 4:3 material will have sidebars as part of the picture (like the Star Trek series).

Blurays are designed to be watched without any messing about with the ratio of your tv .

What will you make of Snow White on Bluray?

There is very little 4:3 material out on Bluray so far .
Dambusters ,Snow White , Pinocchio ,Star Trek tv series , The Prisoner tv series are all I can think of so thats why none of your other Blurays have this issue

He's right you know, I can list loads more 4:3 oldies on bluray. Be worth looking at the recent Snow White post in this movie forum, you may learn something

[dsimiller]

ok folks,thanks for the info

[titcaptain]

Originally Posted by Al_T3D

He's right you know, I can list loads more 4:3 oldies on bluray. Be worth looking at the recent Snow White post in this movie forum, you may learn something

Not sure what you mean. What do you think I need to learn?
The titles I mentioned are the only 4:3 ones I can recall offhand that are out on Bluray .
Whether there are more is completely irrelevant.

A 4:3 image will have sidebars on a Bluray and thats the end of it.

If it doesn't then its either not being presented in 4:3 ratio as it should be or the user is distorting the image via the tv settings which gives you the choice of losing picture area or distorting the picture- neither is correct - both are user preferences.

Disney offering the option to view 4:3 images with sidebars filled with illustrations simply panders to those like the OP who don't seem to understand about picture ratios.

I would be interested to hear from you some of the other 4:3 titles on Bluray.
With the exception of recent arrivals Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind I cant think of many others

[davidweller]

Originally Posted by titcaptain

I would be interested to hear from you some of the other 4:3 titles on Bluray.
With the exception of recent arrivals Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind I cant think of many others

Quo Vadis.

[titcaptain]

Originally Posted by davidweller

Quo Vadis.

And does that fill your 16:9 screen ?

No it doesn't.

[davidweller]

Originally Posted by titcaptain

And does that fill your 16:9 screen ?

No it doesn't.

And quite right too.

[Al_T3D]

Originally Posted by titcaptain

Not sure what you mean. What do you think I need to learn?
The titles I mentioned are the only 4:3 ones I can recall offhand that are out on Bluray .
Whether there are more is completely irrelevant.

A 4:3 image will have sidebars on a Bluray and thats the end of it.

If it doesn't then its either not being presented in 4:3 ratio as it should be or the user is distorting the image via the tv settings which gives you the choice of losing picture area or distorting the picture- neither is correct - both are user preferences.

Disney offering the option to view 4:3 images with sidebars filled with illustrations simply panders to those like the OP who don't seem to understand about picture ratios.

I would be interested to hear from you some of the other 4:3 titles on Bluray.
With the exception of recent arrivals Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind I cant think of many others

Crossed wires Titcaptain, I wasn't suggesting you learn anything, you seem very knowledgeable about these things, I was suggesting the OP go to the Snow White thread, as these very issues were discussed there.

[titcaptain]

Originally Posted by davidweller

And quite right too.

Agreed.

The DisneyView mode reminded me of the days when the BBC decided that viewers would not understand the widescreen format so in the 70's whenever the opening titles of some films were shown in the correct ratio the BBC used to fill the top and bottom borders with things.

My first BBC1 VHS of The Great Escape featured barbed wire in the borders and possibly the worst example was when BBC1 showed 2001 for the first time on New Years Day 1982.

All the interior scenes were hideously cropped to 4:3 as expected but all the space scenes were shown in the correct ratio but in order to stop viewers having blank borders they filled them with fake stars.

Now while that would seem quite clever in theory , the fact that the widecreen images often had half a spaceship at the border which then changed to stars made the whole thing a joke.

It was rightly condemned and was never done again and may perhaps have been the first step toward acceptance of widescreen films on tv , although it took the best part of 20 years to get there and even today neither BBC1 nor ITV1 will show a 2.35:1 film correctly