John and Edward are real people, y'know! - The X Factor

whatfreshhell · 10-11-2009, 16:34

I really think it's unfair how we're getting all these articles saying 'Simon regrets his decision' and 'Ofcom gets complaints', and then threads on here suggesting that J and E should quit!

Don't forget, they're people too; fair enough be upset for Lucie, but it was the public that sent her home. John and Edward stand on that stage every week and get booed by the X Factor Groundlings and are now also going to have to deal with the ideas that Simon wishes he'd sent them home, and that people blame them for Lucie leaving. It wasn't their fault!

And yet, despite being treated so badly, they won't do the whole Danyl-esque 'I'm a broken man' thing.

They may be funny, resilient and determined, but they're not unbreakable!

mitacond · 10-11-2009, 16:37

Of course they are people - they will be ok they are strong and at least they have each other.

kenda11 · 10-11-2009, 16:38

i understand you feel the need to stick up for an act you like...but does it really need another thre.......oh whats the point.

i agree

whatfreshhell · 10-11-2009, 16:40

I don't generally start many threads, there just weren't many pro-Jedward threads on the page atm, and then I saw the article about SC saying he regretted his decision, and it annoyed me a bit ^_^

Selena · 10-11-2009, 16:41

So are all the contestants.

I agree with what your saying but I find it hypocriticial when people post stop attacking so and so its not right. Yet, they gleefully attack another contestant.

Edit - this last paragraph is not aimed at a particular person just in general.

spendleb · 10-11-2009, 16:42

They must be pretty thick skinned to put up with this week in week out OR they really do feel they are talented

, I really hope they are in on the joke as a lot suggest otherwise they are going to get one hell of a bump to earth soon.

manutdonline · 10-11-2009, 16:46

most of the contestants and judges have spoken out about them being nice people.. so i don't actually think that the public hate them as human beings.

But its more of that they really really awful singers/dancers and shouldn't really be on a show that is about finding talented singers.

whip · 10-11-2009, 16:49

Chicken man was a real person also should he of been put into the final so people could laugh at him? Of course not and neither should the twins.

Old.Tallen · 10-11-2009, 16:54

I do get the impression they are not aware of how badly they are being exploited. I wonder if we'll be reading retrospective threads when they finally get the boot and find themselves cut loose in the real world tainted to be Jedward for the rest of their lives. Anyone remember what happened to Heresay? That was not pretty and im surprised responsible TV producers haven't cottoned on to this.

On xtra factor one of the twins didn't even seem to know what the word backlash meant...

ardmajell55 · 10-11-2009, 17:04

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Originally Posted by manutdonline

most of the contestants and judges have spoken out about them being nice people.. so i don't actually think that the public hate them as human beings.

But its more of that they really really awful singers/dancers and shouldn't really be on a show that is about finding talented singers.

i noticed that after lucie got the verdict, dermot turned to ask one of the twins [nearest the camera] if he feared a backlash, and he didn't seem to get it, there was a ripple of laughter from the crowd. it must have embarassed his brother. they're not that thickskinned, and certainly not thick, which the audience appeared to think.

whatfreshhell · 10-11-2009, 17:06

I agree- I don't think it is the GP treating J and E the worst, it's the programme itself. But then, my eyes were opened up a bit after I read Ben Elton's Chart Throb, haha.

Glorfindel · 10-11-2009, 17:08

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Originally Posted by Old.Tallen

I do get the impression they are not aware of how badly they are being exploited. I wonder if we'll be reading retrospective threads when they finally get the boot and find themselves cut loose in the real world tainted to be Jedward for the rest of their lives. Anyone remember what happened to Heresay? That was not pretty and im surprised responsible TV producers haven't cottoned on to this.

On xtra factor one of the twins didn't even seem to know what the word backlash meant...

I think he knew what the word meant, he just hadn't considered it happening.

Everyone always says that twins live in a world of their own, but i'm genuinely not sure whether that'll be a help or a hindrance to them. I do think that Louis has their best interests at heart, and will hope to see them right after the show.

I do think that every week they look a little bit more ground-down by the whole thing: I couldn't have dealt with it at 18...

Heavenly · 10-11-2009, 17:10

They apologised to Dannii as well last week, bless them, which they shouldn't have to do. It was the programme that put them through, knowing exactly what would happen, and it is the public keeping them in.

Pandorian · 10-11-2009, 17:23

Good post OP.

This is how I feel about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

Miranda123 · 10-11-2009, 17:29

Of course they are not real people, they are imbeciles!

As for them getting up on stage every week and getting slated, they should be, they're crap.

How could their parents let them do this, dont they have any shame or any concern for their sons.

They have been hated where they live for years and yet their parents thought it would be a good idea to let the rest of the UK hate them too?

It s a sad day when parents are prepared to let their kids make utter fools of themselves and be genuinely hated for money!

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Originally Posted by whatfreshhell

I really think it's unfair how we're getting all these articles saying 'Simon regrets his decision' and 'Ofcom gets complaints', and then threads on here suggesting that J and E should quit!

Don't forget, they're people too; fair enough be upset for Lucie, but it was the public that sent her home. John and Edward stand on that stage every week and get booed by the X Factor Groundlings and are now also going to have to deal with the ideas that Simon wishes he'd sent them home, and that people blame them for Lucie leaving. It wasn't their fault!

And yet, despite being treated so badly, they won't do the whole Danyl-esque 'I'm a broken man' thing.

They may be funny, resilient and determined, but they're not unbreakable!

Ellef · 10-11-2009, 17:32

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Originally Posted by Miranda123

Of course they are not real people, they are imbeciles!

As for them getting up on stage every week and getting slated, they should be, they're crap.

How could their parents let them do this, dont they have any shame or any concern for their sons.

They have been hated where they live for years and yet their parents thought it would be a good idea to let the rest of the UK hate them too?

It s a sad day when parents are prepared to let their kids make utter fools of themselves and be genuinely hated for money!

Hated, seriously? Seriously? For having oddball hairstyles and outlandish dress sense?

And for years? They're 18 now, so you're saying they've been hated by the public in their town since they were, oh, let's say 13?

Truly we are in the presence of evil!

whatfreshhell · 10-11-2009, 17:39

Wow, Miranda123, you have some issues there.

noorani · 10-11-2009, 18:11

I like them, and I'll be doing extra votes for them this week. Don't care about all the haters out there. If it wasn't for them you'd all be comatosed by the rest of the acts by now.

Disnae · 10-11-2009, 18:13

The hatred for those boys is appalling but hopefully they can cope with it. :/ They are very young to be dealing with all the crap that has been slung at them. Someone on Twitter has been sending out links to this site and the site owner says he would hit the boys in real life if he got the chance.

It's really disgusting. All the boys have done is take part in a Saturday night entertainment show. The way some people are going on about them you'd think they go around mugging old ladies! ( http://www.punchjohnandedwardintheface.co.uk/ )

Eurostar · 10-11-2009, 18:20

I certainly feel the level of booing and hate from the audience will be even worse next weekend.It has now become fashionable to blame the twins on everything,and they are seen as "fair game" for booing and heckling by the audience (everyone else in the competition deserves to be cheered of course).

bridgerton · 10-11-2009, 18:24

It's not their fault that they keep being voted through. If the audience vote for them then they have the right to be on the show. What I can't bear is the audience booing. It's like going back a few hundred years to public hanging! However thick your skin, at some point it has to hurt. They are only eighteen.

jimmy7bellies · 10-11-2009, 19:16

If you want to blame anyone blame Simon, he's using and abusing them (literally) for his own gain.

bridgerton · 10-11-2009, 19:19

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Originally Posted by jimmy7bellies

If you want to blame anyone blame Simon, he's using and abusing them (literally) for his own gain.

I don't see why anyone needs to be blamed for their participation. They are in the show because people vote for them.

Fringo · 10-11-2009, 19:24

Yes they are real people - don't think anyone doubted it.

Strikes me they've come out unscathed (as they should) and that all the vitriol is towards SC. Oh so SC maybe regretting his decision - what's the problem? It's hardly like they're in a worse position than they've ever been.

littlemissbb · 10-11-2009, 19:30

I really don't understand all this 'hate' stuff directed at John and Edward. It's not just a disliking it's pure hatred. Where has it come from?

I mean if they were really nasty personality wise then I could understand some of it but all I've seen is two lovely lads trying their best and living their dream, every Saturday.
They may not be to everyones liking but honestly I can't believe the amount of grief they are getting.

I want to give them both a great big hug.

10-11-2009, 16:34	#1
whatfreshhell Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In A Jar UK Posts: 569	John and Edward are real people, y'know! I really think it's unfair how we're getting all these articles saying 'Simon regrets his decision' and 'Ofcom gets complaints', and then threads on here suggesting that J and E should quit! Don't forget, they're people too; fair enough be upset for Lucie, but it was the public that sent her home. John and Edward stand on that stage every week and get booed by the X Factor Groundlings and are now also going to have to deal with the ideas that Simon wishes he'd sent them home, and that people blame them for Lucie leaving. It wasn't their fault! And yet, despite being treated so badly, they won't do the whole Danyl-esque 'I'm a broken man' thing. They may be funny, resilient and determined, but they're not unbreakable!

10-11-2009, 16:37	#2
mitacond Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 53,942	Of course they are people - they will be ok they are strong and at least they have each other.

10-11-2009, 16:38	#3
kenda11 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: everywhere Posts: 690	i understand you feel the need to stick up for an act you like...but does it really need another thre.......oh whats the point. i agree

10-11-2009, 16:40	#4
whatfreshhell Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In A Jar UK Posts: 569	I don't generally start many threads, there just weren't many pro-Jedward threads on the page atm, and then I saw the article about SC saying he regretted his decision, and it annoyed me a bit ^_^

10-11-2009, 16:41	#5
Selena Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: South Wales Posts: 13,225	So are all the contestants. I agree with what your saying but I find it hypocriticial when people post stop attacking so and so its not right. Yet, they gleefully attack another contestant. Edit - this last paragraph is not aimed at a particular person just in general.

10-11-2009, 16:42	#6
spendleb Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Services: BT Vision, BT Broadband Anywhere, BT HomeHub 2, IPOD Touch, XBOX 360 Posts: 2,077	They must be pretty thick skinned to put up with this week in week out OR they really do feel they are talented , I really hope they are in on the joke as a lot suggest otherwise they are going to get one hell of a bump to earth soon.

10-11-2009, 16:46	#7
manutdonline Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bye Bye Jedward! Posts: 120	most of the contestants and judges have spoken out about them being nice people.. so i don't actually think that the public hate them as human beings. But its more of that they really really awful singers/dancers and shouldn't really be on a show that is about finding talented singers.

10-11-2009, 16:49	#8
whip Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 7,584	Chicken man was a real person also should he of been put into the final so people could laugh at him? Of course not and neither should the twins.

10-11-2009, 16:54	#9
Old.Tallen Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 532	I do get the impression they are not aware of how badly they are being exploited. I wonder if we'll be reading retrospective threads when they finally get the boot and find themselves cut loose in the real world tainted to be Jedward for the rest of their lives. Anyone remember what happened to Heresay? That was not pretty and im surprised responsible TV producers haven't cottoned on to this. On xtra factor one of the twins didn't even seem to know what the word backlash meant...

10-11-2009, 17:06	#11
whatfreshhell Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In A Jar UK Posts: 569	I agree- I don't think it is the GP treating J and E the worst, it's the programme itself. But then, my eyes were opened up a bit after I read Ben Elton's Chart Throb, haha.

10-11-2009, 17:10	#13
Heavenly Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sussex Services: Olly and Jedward land.... Posts: 5,052	They apologised to Dannii as well last week, bless them, which they shouldn't have to do. It was the programme that put them through, knowing exactly what would happen, and it is the public keeping them in.

10-11-2009, 17:23	#14
Pandorian Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,385	Good post OP. This is how I feel about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

10-11-2009, 17:39	#17
whatfreshhell Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In A Jar UK Posts: 569	Wow, Miranda123, you have some issues there.

10-11-2009, 18:11	#18
noorani Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,794	I like them, and I'll be doing extra votes for them this week. Don't care about all the haters out there. If it wasn't for them you'd all be comatosed by the rest of the acts by now.

10-11-2009, 18:13	#19
Disnae Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,180	The hatred for those boys is appalling but hopefully they can cope with it. :/ They are very young to be dealing with all the crap that has been slung at them. Someone on Twitter has been sending out links to this site and the site owner says he would hit the boys in real life if he got the chance. It's really disgusting. All the boys have done is take part in a Saturday night entertainment show. The way some people are going on about them you'd think they go around mugging old ladies! ( http://www.punchjohnandedwardintheface.co.uk/ )

10-11-2009, 18:20	#20
Eurostar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 7,519	I certainly feel the level of booing and hate from the audience will be even worse next weekend.It has now become fashionable to blame the twins on everything,and they are seen as "fair game" for booing and heckling by the audience (everyone else in the competition deserves to be cheered of course).

10-11-2009, 18:24	#21
bridgerton Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 605	It's not their fault that they keep being voted through. If the audience vote for them then they have the right to be on the show. What I can't bear is the audience booing. It's like going back a few hundred years to public hanging! However thick your skin, at some point it has to hurt. They are only eighteen.

10-11-2009, 19:16	#22
jimmy7bellies Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,173	If you want to blame anyone blame Simon, he's using and abusing them (literally) for his own gain.

10-11-2009, 19:24	#24
Fringo Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: London Posts: 3,420	Yes they are real people - don't think anyone doubted it. Strikes me they've come out unscathed (as they should) and that all the vitriol is towards SC. Oh so SC maybe regretting his decision - what's the problem? It's hardly like they're in a worse position than they've ever been.

10-11-2009, 19:30	#25
littlemissbb Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 229	I really don't understand all this 'hate' stuff directed at John and Edward. It's not just a disliking it's pure hatred. Where has it come from? I mean if they were really nasty personality wise then I could understand some of it but all I've seen is two lovely lads trying their best and living their dream, every Saturday. They may not be to everyones liking but honestly I can't believe the amount of grief they are getting. I want to give them both a great big hug.