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Old 19-06-2010, 18:38   #1
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Medical student's views on Sunshine :O

Someone else said: "She's going to get eaten alive when she qualifies."

Someone else said: "When asked why she wanted to do medicine: "When I was 17 my mum died of cancer and I decided I wanted to do everything I could so that nobody would ever be in my position again".

She's just put back reasonable justifications to people by 5 years. I am holding her personally responsible for every new idiot that comes on and judges people's reasons for doing medicine."

Someone else said: "That woman makes me die a little on the inside. But then rage, fury and anger swell and bring the 'dead' from within me back to burning life...

*ahem*

Sorry, I find her rather disagreeable."

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http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...light=sunshine

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Do you think that Sunshine's personality contrasts to the career that she is embarking on?

I used to think so, but not every single doctor in the entire world must have the same personality. I don't see her as self centered or attention seeking at all, which are some of her criticisms on this board. It's very easy to "switch" some aspects of your personality off when you're in a certain environment. The way she acts on TV =/= that she will make a bad doctor.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:39   #2
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She actually has huge self esteem problems, and will possibly struggle if and when she qualifies.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:41   #3
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She is doing a medical journalism course which to me would suggest that she might not be that keen on practicing as a doctor anyway. There's more than one way of putting a medical qualification to use.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:43   #4
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I don't think there's anything wrong with Sunshine's reason for wanting to do medicine.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:44   #5
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No not necessarily, it depends on what kind of Doctor she wants to become. If Sunshine is intent on dealing with the public then she will not only need to toughen up and learn to listen! She won't last long otherwise as the public won't put up with that.

If she is going into say surgery or research where the public isn't directly involved as such then I don't see it too much of a problem, well not for her but her colleagues maybe.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:45   #6
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She is doing a medical journalism course which to me would suggest that she might not be that keen on practicing as a doctor anyway. There's more than one way of putting a medical qualification to use.
Actually she is going back at the end of August. Yes she has had huge problems but these are going enable her to empathise with the patients. I wish her well in her chosen career bless her. Sunshine is on medication and she is doing really well. I cannot judge her I am not walking in her shoes.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:45   #7
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"She's going to get eaten alive when she qualifies."

"When asked why she wanted to do medicine: "When I was 17 my mum died of cancer and I decided I wanted to do everything I could so that nobody would ever be in my position again".

She's just put back reasonable justifications to people by 5 years. I am holding her personally responsible for every new idiot that comes on and judges people's reasons for doing medicine."

"That woman makes me die a little on the inside. But then rage, fury and anger swell and bring the 'dead' from within me back to burning life...

*ahem*

Sorry, I find her rather disagreeable."

Source: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...light=sunshine

Do you think that Sunshine's personality contrasts to the career that she is embarking on? I used to think so, but not every single doctor in the entire world must have the same personality. I don't see her as self centered or attention seeking at all, which are some of her criticisms on this board. It's very easy to "switch" some aspects of your personality off when you're in a certain environment.
Sheeesh!!!

What is wrong with who she is with you?

You're looking at this from such a shallow and immature basis that somebody has to be of a certain nature to study medicine. Do you actually know any Doctors because for all of the Doctors that I have met in my life and I could mention hundreds, not one is the same and most of them are a lot like Sunshine.

What do you expect from a young girl? Do you want her to dress like Maggie Thatcher and walk around like a robot?

Seriously man. You're making out medicine is some military school regime where she has to do 5000 press ups a day and speak only when spoken to. I don't think you are in the same western culture and democratic structure that the rest of us live in because your point of view only exists in economies with a dictatorship. This is not how we do things on planet earth!

She is a medical student - deal with it!
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:46   #8
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She is doing a medical journalism course which to me would suggest that she might not be that keen on practicing as a doctor anyway. There's more than one way of putting a medical qualification to use.
She is intercalating for a year. After next year she will do her final year in medical school and will qualify as a jr doctor.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:46   #9
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No not necessarily, it depends on what kind of Doctor she wants to become. If Sunshine is intent on dealing with the public then she will not only need to toughen up and learn to listen! She won't last long otherwise as the public won't put up with that.

If she is going into say surgery or research where the public isn't directly involved as such then I don't see it too much of a problem, well not for her but her colleagues maybe.
You base this on her being on TV in a reality TV show where she generally socialises?

I'm shocked at reading these posts that make out Doctors are just tight anal anti-social nobodies. It's laughable. I'll think about this the next time I talking to the Doctors I know about Star Wars, Dragons, Teletubbies or even Porn!
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:47   #10
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I don't think there's anything wrong with Sunshine's reason for wanting to do medicine.
The very, very worst thing to stay on your personal statement when applying to medicine is what Sunshine said. Medical schools especially Imperial, will chuck your application out as soon as they see it. It's generally advised against discussing unless you can spin it in a very unique way that doesn't sound too generic.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:48   #11
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Sheeesh!!!

What is wrong with who she is with you?

You're looking at this from such a shallow and immature basis that somebody has to be of a certain nature to study medicine. Do you actually know any Doctors because for all of the Doctors that I have met in my life and I could mention hundreds, not one is the same and most of them are a lot like Sunshine.

What do you expect from a young girl? Do you want her to dress like Maggie Thatcher and walk around like a robot?

Seriously man. You're making out medicine is some military school regime where she has to do 5000 press ups a day and speak only when spoken to. I don't think you are in the same western culture and democratic structure that the rest of us live in because your point of view only exists in economies with a dictatorship. This is not how we do things on planet earth!

She is a medical student - deal with it!
I didn't say any of the quotes. I like Sunshine. Chill out.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:48   #12
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Sheeesh!!!

What is wrong with who she is with you?

You're looking at this from such a shallow and immature basis that somebody has to be of a certain nature to study medicine. Do you actually know any Doctors because for all of the Doctors that I have met in my life and I could mention hundreds, not one is the same and most of them are a lot like Sunshine.

What do you expect from a young girl? Do you want her to dress like Maggie Thatcher and walk around like a robot?

Seriously man. You're making out medicine is some military school regime where she has to do 5000 press ups a day and speak only when spoken to. I don't think you are in the same western culture and democratic structure that the rest of us live in because your point of view only exists in economies with a dictatorship. This is not how we do things on planet earth!

She is a medical student - deal with it!
I cannot understansd why ppl are dissing her for her intelligence and for wanting to be a doctor to help others. All I can say is its wonderful what she and other doctors are doing for many and we should be thankful we have youngsters who are dedicating themselves to this profession. Well done Sunshine
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:48   #13
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Actually she is going back at the end of August. Yes she has had huge problems but these are going enable her to empathise with the patients. I wish her well in her chosen career bless her. Sunshine is on medication and she is doing really well. I cannot judge her I am not walking in her shoes.
Exactly She'd be a great paediatrician.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:49   #14
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The very, very worst thing to stay on your personal statement when applying to medicine is what Sunshine said. Medical schools especially Imperial, will chuck your application out as soon as they see it. It's generally advised against discussing unless you can spin it in a very unique way that doesn't sound too generic.
How do you know what the entry requirements are for those selecting at Imperial? Are you on the board?

She's in medical school so maybe you need to re-evaluate your perspective on this.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:50   #15
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Exactly She'd be a great paediatrician.
YOur right she was talking about that - maybe she will specialise as one I don't know what plans she has for specialising.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:51   #16
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How do you know what the entry requirements are for those selecting at Imperial? Are you on the board?

She's in medical school so maybe you need to re-evaluate your perspective on this.
For those applying to medicine, there are open days to attend. There is a specific open day at a hospital Northwick Park hospital and admissions tutors from Imperial attend. That was the specific advice they gave us. Students have been on admissions panels too you know That's all I'm sayin, chill out! I haven't said a bad word about Sunshine here, I was sticking up for her with all the boos last night!
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For those applying to medicine, there are open days to attend. There is an open day at a hospital Northwick Park hospital and admissions tutors from Imperial attend. That was the specific advice they gave us. Students have been on admissions panels too you know That's all I'm sayin, chill out! I haven't said a bad word about Sunshine here, I was sticking up for her with all the boos last night!
But you are indirectly questioning her position as a medical student.

From where I am sitting you appear to be envious of her position.

To add to which, motivation if personal can be very useful in studying anything. What do you expect them to say? I don't want ot change the world and just want to make a lot of money?

If you remove personal human based motivation I don't know what somebody has in life. So I don't agree with what you had been told considering I have sat in a number of selection committees.
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:53   #18
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But you are indirectly questioning her position as a medical student.

From where I am sitting you appear to be envious of her position.
I wasn't indirectly questioning her position. I was raising a point of discussion and asking if you agree with the above views. I am not jealous of her position....at all.

Everything I say is wrong on this board
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:54   #19
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The very, very worst thing to stay on your personal statement when applying to medicine is what Sunshine said. Medical schools especially Imperial, will chuck your application out as soon as they see it. It's generally advised against discussing unless you can spin it in a very unique way that doesn't sound too generic.
Shows how little I know, lol!
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:55   #20
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But you are indirectly questioning her position as a medical student.

From where I am sitting you appear to be envious of her position.

To add to which, motivation if personal can be very useful in studying anything. What do you expect them to say? I don't want ot change the world and just want to make a lot of money?

If you remove personal human based motivation I don't know what somebody has in life. So I don't agree with what you had been told considering I have sat in a number of selection committees.
Google Northwick Park Medical Open days, book one, go there and ask them if what i said was true. You do know that the views expressed above were not mine. Why don't you question the people who actually said it?
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Old 19-06-2010, 18:55   #21
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You base this on her being on TV in a reality TV show where she generally socialises?

I'm shocked at reading these posts that make out Doctors are just tight anal anti-social nobodies. It's laughable. I'll think about this the next time I talking to the Doctors I know about Star Wars, Dragons, Teletubbies or even Porn!

What on earth are you talking about? I haven't seen a post which make out Doctors are tight anal anti-social nobodies and as far as I'm aware no one has inferred it either.

OP asked a question and I gave my opinion based on the different kind of Doctors I've met myself throughout my life.

For Sunshine to go into medicine isn't an issue as far as I'm concerned but I would be concerned if she is dealing with the public and has the same kind of attitude that she has currently shown i.e. not listening etc. Of course if her chosen profession she may come across differently and for her sake, I sincerely hope so as she won't last otherwise but again it would depend on what kind of Doctor she wants to become.

Of course, I can only go by what I see of her on the TV, that's what this forum is about BB and the HM's.
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Old 19-06-2010, 19:00   #22
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No not necessarily, it depends on what kind of Doctor she wants to become. If Sunshine is intent on dealing with the public then she will not only need to toughen up and learn to listen! She won't last long otherwise as the public won't put up with that.

If she is going into say surgery or research where the public isn't directly involved as such then I don't see it too much of a problem, well not for her but her colleagues maybe.
Surgeons still see patients in clinic and have to make an assessment. They therefore need some kind of interactive skills and the ability to listen. The first time they see the patient isn't old cold on the operating table!
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Old 19-06-2010, 19:01   #23
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The very, very worst thing to stay on your personal statement when applying to medicine is what Sunshine said. Medical schools especially Imperial, will chuck your application out as soon as they see it. It's generally advised against discussing unless you can spin it in a very unique way that doesn't sound too generic.
Sunshine obviously managed to convince admissions that she had valid and convincing reasons for wanting to be a doctor. If they were satisfied with her application, I don't think you are qualified to second guess their decision to offer her a place to read medicine.
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Old 19-06-2010, 19:02   #24
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I find it odd that so many people are shocked, amused or even concerned that Sunshine is on her way to becoming a Doctor. Do people think that Doctors are a whole other species or something???
All kinds of people can and do become Doctor's, their just people and have their own individual personality's like in any other profesion. I see no reason why Sunshine couldn't one day be a good one.
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Old 19-06-2010, 19:02   #25
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Sunshine obviously managed to convince admissions that she had valid and convincing reasons for wanting to be a doctor. If they were satisfied with her application, I don't think you are qualified to second guess their decision to offer her a place to read medicine.
I'm not second guessing. I was explaining to the other poster why one of the quotes said what it did.
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