[Claire xxx]

i know she

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gets killed off

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but when? Has anyone heard what is too come of Ben?

[Thriller]

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Apparently Ben returns to the UK and there is a court battle between Ian and Phil to become his guardian.

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[stewartie2001]

poor ben - not sure which is worse

[Kontroversial]

The thread indicates it will contain spoilers, so there's no need for the tags. It annoys me to scroll over them to see what they say. But I've heard that she dies, and that Ben comes to England. A possible court case between Phil and Kathy's husband.

[iiHEARTy0u]

Originally Posted by stewartie2001

poor ben - not sure which is worse

Lol welcome to the forum.
I think he should stay with Phil.

-Brodie

[Pete Callan]

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I hope Ian get's Ben and if you think about it, it's not really a hard decision for the judge

A man who's picked up by the cops every other week and has a known record for violence or a hard-working rich family man in a stable relatonship.

It really is a no brainer - Although I'd prefer if Kathy wasn't killed at all

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[Michaela_1989]

I thought they were going to bring her back at some point so i was really shocked when i found out they were killing her off!! Apparently Gillian Taylforth who played Kathy is unhappy about it because she wanted to come back as well. Neither Phil or Ian deserve custody of Ben in my opinion. Phil drove Kathy away by abusing her in his drunken rages and Ian is just a nitwit!! And he has enough kids to look after already. Kathy's new hubby in South Africa adopted Ben when they got married so he should get custody of him and i pressume that's what Kathy would have wanted.

[manfrommars]

Originally Posted by Michaela_1989

I thought they were going to bring her back at some point so i was really shocked when i found out they were killing her off!! Apparently Gillian Taylforth who played Kathy is unhappy about it because she wanted to come back as well. Neither Phil or Ian deserve custody of Ben in my opinion. Phil drove Kathy away by abusing her in his drunken rages and Ian is just a nitwit!! And he has enough kids to look after already. Kathy's new hubby in South Africa adopted Ben when they got married so he should get custody of him and i pressume that's what Kathy would have wanted.

The problem is, EE has become too much of a playground for people who want to just saunter in and out of the show whenever they feel like it - with Shane Richie, Jessie Wallace, Letitia Dean, Nigel Harman, Steve McFadden, etc being prime examples.

If the character isnt on screen to be watched by viewers, there is no "right" for stars to say: "Oh, but I might want to come back in a few years time and stay for three episodes." I applaud Kate Harwood for taking this decision - Kathy may have been a popular character in the past, but she hasnt been seen for years, so nobody will miss her.

[SecretLifeoBees]

Originally Posted by manfrommars

The problem is, EE has become too much of a playground for people who want to just saunter in and out of the show whenever they feel like it - with Shane Richie, Jessie Wallace, Letitia Dean, Nigel Harman, Steve McFadden, etc being prime examples.

If the character isnt on screen to be watched by viewers, there is no "right" for stars to say: "Oh, but I might want to come back in a few years time and stay for three episodes." I applaud Kate Harwood for taking this decision - Kathy may have been a popular character in the past, but she hasnt been seen for years, so nobody will miss her.

I agree although I don't think Nigel Harman will be doing much sauntering back if the rumours are true . Letitia Dean has to be the worst offender.

I don't get the reasoning behind killing Kathy off, it's a bit like Mark Fowler's death she is no longer in the show, so why bother making storylines about characters who are no longer in the show.

Anyway I thought that the bloke Kathy had married in South Africa had adopted Ben, so wouldn't he be classed as his guardian?

[Hippyste]

I'll miss her. So will many people...

[Natalie76]

Originally Posted by SecretLifeoBees

I agree although I don't think Nigel Harman will be doing much sauntering back if the rumours are true . Letitia Dean has to be the worst offender.

I don't get the reasoning behind killing Kathy off, it's a bit like Mark Fowler's death she is no longer in the show, so why bother making storylines about characters who are no longer in the show.

Anyway I thought that the bloke Kathy had married in South Africa had adopted Ben, so wouldn't he be classed as his guardian?

I think the idea behind killing her off is to get her son into the show and a possible court case between phil and ian.

[robjames69]

tish is awful!

she left in 1994 i believe, returning in 2001,
then leaving in 2001 and returning in 2002,
then leaving after toms death in 2002, and returning in 2003
with vicki, then left at christmas 2004, returned for ONE EPISODE in febuary, before LEAVING then returning in june 2005 and leaving again in
JANUARY 2006 before returing a few months later!! phew!

[HARPDALE.MARK]

Originally Posted by robjames69

tish is awful!

she left in 1994 i believe, returning in 2001,
then leaving in 2001 and returning in 2002,
then leaving after toms death in 2002, and returning in 2003
with vicki, then left at christmas 2004, returned for ONE EPISODE in febuary, before LEAVING then returning in june 2005 and leaving again in
JANUARY 2006 before returing a few months later!! phew!

excuse me but you are crictsising tish for having a health problem which has been mentioned many times on these boards recently and she cant do that long due to health and its the fact that eastenders call her and ask her to come back not the other way round so who made u a doctor or a ee producers of a sudden

[the_charmed_one]

I agree with their decision too, I liked Kath but these stars who think they cant swan in and out deserve a reality check. Also Gillian Taylforth has carved quite a decent post EEs career for herself with a good role in 'Footballers Wives' - Im sure she'll survive.

[Crystal Clear]

Originally Posted by Thriller

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Apparently Ben returns to the UK and there is a court battle between Ian and Phil to become his guardian.

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How can that happen though? Phil is his dad so all rights go to him a court battle will not be able to happen unless social services say Phil can't have him.

Some of this spoiler does not sound right.

[SteveHunter]

Phil's been to prison remember and involved in loads of criminal activities that is why Ian would have a reason to say Ben should not live with Phil.

[HARPDALE.MARK]

would'nt gillian taylforth have be so annoyed if after leaving ee that she had never got anymore work because everyone linked her to kathyand everytime they she was getting into job that ee kept mentioing kathy its only because she has managed to carve a very nice carer for her self out side of ee that she has the chance to say what shes saying

[Jaccobabe]

I think GT will survive, but EE will miss yet another great character. I really wanted to see her back...

[skp20040]

Personally I think that if it is true and they are going to kill off the character of Kathy , then EE should take another look and have a hard think. What is the point of killing off offscreen characters , especially ones that were very popular , after all maybe one day they can b brought back.

There are plenty of ways of Bringing Ben into the show if they wanted to , killing Kathy is just an easy option. As for a court case , as Kathy was married to a South African who adopted her son then in real life the court case would be in South Africa not Walford.

As for people swanning in and out , Gillian Taylforth can hardly be accused of that.

But with characters coming and going in and out , that is just reflecting real life surely. I mean people move away but come back to visit and see family etc , why should EE not be the same.

To my mind EE goes a bit over the top with its death toll , time to give it a rest, its things such as that that really annoy me , deaths for absolutely no reason.

[khalidkausar]

i think phil should get custody of ben because the poor fellow however hard he is, has never had much luck with kids, first ben went off to south africa then jamie dies and also lisa takes louise to goodness knows where, i think phil would make a great dad but a rubbish husband. if he has ben in his life it will a totally different side to phil and i was wondering what ever happended to the guy kathy married was he not supposed to be bens "daddy" and there was a thing in an episode where phil was gutted cause ben called the other guy dad

[BettyLuv]

It would have made more sense to kill off Lucy Benjamin - they could have brought Lou back and done the whole story pretty much the same.

EE never seem to learn having killed off Cindy, Angie, Mark, Pete off screen. The end result is never that good and the viewers feel cheated. I can't remember Corrie doing it?!

I remember years ago Corinne Hollingworth saying 'Kill characters off at your peril'

I think GT would have gone back in time and having watched EE at Christmas on UK Gold, I was reminded of how great GT was. In a year or two when the next producer is at the helm and GT is available - they'll regret it!

[performingmonk]

They should bring back Kathy alive so that there could be a story between her, Phil and Grant, and the guy who adopted Ben could come into it, and Phil and Grant murder him to get custody. But then Grant leaves his wife to go with Kathy and wants to adopt Ben himself. Phil and Grant have it out at night in the Arches. We see a bald head lying on the floor in the shadows. Who's dead? Phil or Grant? In three weeks time BOTH their bodies are discovered (Garry and Minty have been on holiday in France for a month so don't find them till then). It turns out that Den AND Dennis returned from the grave to murder the Mitchwl Bruvvaz in cold blood. The Den gets the Vic back and marries Sharon (Dennis is the best man).

[STEVE 03]

Well this storyline won't take place until the summer at the earliest, because Phil Mitchell apprently does a runner from Johnny Allen who threatens to kill him and his family. It turns out this is the reason for Grant's return, who aims to sort out Johnny Allen for good...

[studenting]

Originally Posted by HARPDALE.MARK

excuse me but you are crictsising tish for having a health problem which has been mentioned many times on these boards recently and she cant do that long due to health and its the fact that eastenders call her and ask her to come back not the other way round so who made u a doctor or a ee producers of a sudden

Mentioned yes, but I've yet to see one shred of evidence to suggest she's ill. Jessie Wallace can't even go to the toilet without it being splashed all across the papers, I doubt if she was so seriously ill as your making out that it wouldn't be common knowledge. The fact is, she comes and goes as she pleases and is allowed do so. The show shouldn't pander to her. If she is in fact ill, then she should not be acting or in the show. Her revolving door character is a farce and can't be taken seriously at all anymore.

As for Kathy, I couldn't be happpier they are killing her off. When Kathy left she had nothing to do on the show. She has very little potential to be brought back and killing her off would at least give Ian a storyline other then money and getting married. People think bringing back these characters from the past is a great idea but that character needs to come back and actually have a sustainable future on the show. EE is TERRIBLE at doing this. They've been sucessful with Dot, but I've never fully bought Sharon since she came back the first time. She seems to just jump from various storyline and there has been little or no character development. I can't see them making Kathy any better if they were to bring her back so good riddance.

[Dirrrtygirl]

Hey - totally off topic but where in Cornwall are you from?

Originally Posted by Mad Puppy

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I hope Ian get's Ben and if you think about it, it's not really a hard decision for the judge

A man who's picked up by the cops every other week and has a known record for violence or a hard-working rich family man in a stable relatonship.

It really is a no brainer - Although I'd prefer if Kathy wasn't killed at all

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