bbc radio birmingham - Radio

radio nut · 17-10-2006, 09:50

anyone remember the forerunner of bbc wm,it had the likes of nick owen,peter powell and jim rosenthal who all went on to better posts,

Les Wires · 17-10-2006, 10:02

and Les Ross. Also someone called Caroline ??? who used to have a show called 'Radio Caroline'.

What a stupid name Radio 'WM' why not R. West Midlands it has less syllables in it. Birmingham surely has a population to justify it's own BBC local - 1 million.

radio nut · 17-10-2006, 10:07

les,youre not getting confused with caroline martin are you? she was on brmb and did shows on radio caroline with er ex-hubby dave asher,talking of him were is he these days?

radamfi · 17-10-2006, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Les Wires

and Les Ross. Also someone called Caroline ??? who used to have a show called 'Radio Caroline'.

What a stupid name Radio 'WM' why not R. West Midlands it has less syllables in it. Birmingham surely has a population to justify it's own BBC local - 1 million.

The conurbation is already split across two BBC locals (WM and Cov & War), unlike the other big urban areas.

For example:

BBC London: over 7 million
BBC Radio Manchester: over 2 million

dpb · 17-10-2006, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Les Wires

and Les Ross. Also someone called Caroline ??? who used to have a show called 'Radio Caroline'.

What a stupid name Radio 'WM' why not R. West Midlands it has less syllables in it. Birmingham surely has a population to justify it's own BBC local - 1 million.

They have been rumours that the BBC are thinking about launching a local station for the Black Country so if happens maybe Birmingham will get back its own service?

(In an ideal world it would be with a new frequency with less power so 95.6 can be handed to Ofcom but that's not going to happen is it?)

radamfi · 17-10-2006, 10:27

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Originally Posted by dpb

They have been rumours that the BBC are thinking about launching a local station for the Black Country so if happens maybe Birmingham will get back its own service?

(In an ideal world it would be with a new frequency with less power so 95.6 can be handed to Ofcom but that's not going to happen is it?)

That would be a record - three BBC locals in one county. Other counties have to share their BBC local with their neighbours e.g. Surrey/West Sussex/East Sussex and Herts/Bucks/Beds.

radio nut · 17-10-2006, 10:31

get back to the original subject guys?

Inkblot · 17-10-2006, 11:05

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Originally Posted by Les Wires

and Les Ross.

He used to have a show on Saturdays with John Henry called, obviously, the Ross and Henry show. A friend who had quite a surreal sense of humour recommended it to me, and it was probably pretty good, but in those pre-listen again days I was rarely around when it was on.

Also, if memory serves, Radio Birmingham and Radio London were quite close in frequency, so when the wind turned R London blotted out R Birmingham where I lived.

Les Wires · 17-10-2006, 11:26

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Originally Posted by radio nut

les,youre not getting confused with caroline martin are you? she was on brmb and did shows on radio caroline with er ex-hubby dave asher,talking of him were is he these days?

No, this was well before Caroline Martin's time on BRMB, I would estimate around the early 80s. Can remember seeing the schedule in the B'ham Eve Mail....'Radio Caroline'. I think her show was during the evenings. Don't know how long the show lasted for very short I would guess, but it was R. B'ham.

Les Wires · 17-10-2006, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Inkblot

Also, if memory serves, Radio Birmingham and Radio London were quite close in frequency, so when the wind turned R London blotted out R Birmingham where I lived.

I think it was the same 206metres (1458khz) Very unsiciablly close to Luxy but 208 always won through.

Yagi Bare · 17-10-2006, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Les Wires

I think it was the same 206metres (1458khz) Very unsiciablly close to Luxy but 208 always won through.

..and of course Radio Manchester and Radio Newcastle all on 206m.

They solved the problem with their respective commercial stations on 1152 kHz by having a directional array, so I wonder why it was not thought necessary for the BBC ?

richie wild · 17-10-2006, 15:50

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Originally Posted by Les Wires

I think it was the same 206metres (1458khz) Very unsiciablly close to Luxy but 208 always won through.

i've never thought about that, but how did luxy fair in the areas of a station on 206?

Inkblot · 17-10-2006, 16:11

Also there was the strange case of late night "alternative" station Radio Geronimo which bought airtime on Radio Monte Carlo on 205 metres. The programmes from BBC Radio London were supposed to finish before Geronimo came on the air (in the days before 24/7 radio in the UK) so the channel should have been clear. However the BBC transmitted a test tone on 206 which swamped Geronimo on 205 metres. So Geronimo's directors staged a "jamming" of BBC Radio London's building - with real jam.

Adam792 · 17-10-2006, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Les Wires

What a stupid name Radio 'WM' why not R. West Midlands.

It isn't known as Radio WM, it's called just "BBC WM" on air.

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Originally Posted by radamfi

That would be a record - three BBC locals in one county.

No it wouldn't.

Staffordshire is split into three: BBC Radio Stoke (in the North and West), BBC Radio Derby (in the East), and BBC WM (in the South).

And Cheshire is too; BBC Radio Stoke (in the South), BBC Radio Merseyside (in the North-West), and BBC Radio Manchester (in the North-East).

radamfi · 17-10-2006, 19:07

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Originally Posted by AdamJW

Staffordshire is split into three: BBC Radio Stoke (in the North and West), BBC Radio Derby (in the East), and BBC WM (in the South).

And Cheshire is too; BBC Radio Stoke (in the South), BBC Radio Merseyside (in the North-West), and BBC Radio Manchester (in the North-East).

Good point. I suppose the difference is that if the Black Country get their own station, then the county of WM would be split into two stations which only serve areas within the county and Cov & War which mainly serves part of the WM county.

Cheshire is only a minor part of the service area of BBC Radio Stoke, Manchester and Merseyside and Staffordshire is only a minor part of the service area of Radio Derby and WM.

radio nut · 17-10-2006, 19:25

this is bbc radio birmingham thread,please get back on the subject

deepfroat · 18-10-2006, 17:01

Joke in Radio Magazine circa 1988...

In order to boost the audience figures for the BBC's ailing city stations...

Radio London is changing its name to GLR

Radio Manchester will become GMR

And WM will change its name to BRMB!

Walsall_Chris · 21-10-2006, 13:11

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Originally Posted by dpb

They have been rumours that the BBC are thinking about launching a local station for the Black Country so if happens maybe Birmingham will get back its own service?

Sorry to go off topic again Radio Nut,

but I've heard this was happening to? I think it'd be a great idea, certainly good news for West Midlands football fans such as myself, as it might mean them having to commentate on a few more Walsall matches!

So, does anyone have any more information on a possible BBC Radio Black Country, or a return for BBC Radio Birmingham.

By the way Radio Nut, going back to the original topic, never knew that the excellent Jim Rosenthal worked on BBC local radio, so thanks for that bit of detail.

Hirsty06 · 21-10-2006, 13:49

I was in Brum yesterday and dipped into WM. Their jingles sound too much like LBC's jingles in london.... esp. the music beds. I like what i heard though - good service! Was good to hear Les Ross' voice again on a trailer.

17-10-2006, 09:50	#1
radio nut Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: west midlands Services: freeview Posts: 774	bbc radio birmingham anyone remember the forerunner of bbc wm,it had the likes of nick owen,peter powell and jim rosenthal who all went on to better posts,

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Les Wires Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Services: Sky, Sat FTA, DAB, DRM (Matsui4099 mod) Posts: 2,172	and Les Ross. Also someone called Caroline ??? who used to have a show called 'Radio Caroline'. What a stupid name Radio 'WM' why not R. West Midlands it has less syllables in it. Birmingham surely has a population to justify it's own BBC local - 1 million.

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radio nut Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: west midlands Services: freeview Posts: 774	les,youre not getting confused with caroline martin are you? she was on brmb and did shows on radio caroline with er ex-hubby dave asher,talking of him were is he these days?

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radio nut Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: west midlands Services: freeview Posts: 774	get back to the original subject guys?

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Inkblot Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: West London Services: Sky+; ADSL; Apples'n'iPears Posts: 13,256	Also there was the strange case of late night "alternative" station Radio Geronimo which bought airtime on Radio Monte Carlo on 205 metres. The programmes from BBC Radio London were supposed to finish before Geronimo came on the air (in the days before 24/7 radio in the UK) so the channel should have been clear. However the BBC transmitted a test tone on 206 which swamped Geronimo on 205 metres. So Geronimo's directors staged a "jamming" of BBC Radio London's building - with real jam.

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deepfroat Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,359	Joke in Radio Magazine circa 1988... In order to boost the audience figures for the BBC's ailing city stations... Radio London is changing its name to GLR Radio Manchester will become GMR And WM will change its name to BRMB!

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Hirsty06 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 116	I was in Brum yesterday and dipped into WM. Their jingles sound too much like LBC's jingles in london.... esp. the music beds. I like what i heard though - good service! Was good to hear Les Ross' voice again on a trailer.