Talk Talk throttling? - Broadband Internet

Insaneperson · 09-11-2006, 21:47

Have talk talk started throttling there service. I have never had any problems with my bittorrent speeds in the past but now I am unable to get it to go above 5KB/s. Anyone know why, and what can I do to help it, aside from switching to Utorrent? Would changing my port help, and if so how would I do that. Thanks.

Insaneperson · 11-11-2006, 15:43

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rich_jtg · 11-11-2006, 17:39

TalkTalk website:

"Our fair use policy is designed to ensure your service is fast and reliable 24 hours a day. A very small number of customers use file-sharing software (commonly known as "peer to peer" or P2P) or other applications, which constantly send and receive video and other very large files.

This type of activity uses a huge amount of bandwidth and can significantly reduce the speed at which our other customers can access the Internet, especially at peak times

Our fair use policy restricts this high bandwidth activity in peak hours to allow the majority of customers to use their broadband connection for normal residential usage (I.e: surfing, e-mail, online gaming etc). This allows us to give you a high quality service 24 hours a day, 7 days a week."

Maybe they are just cracking down on it now... though it does mention that if you constantly use a lot of bandwidth they "may restrict your general Internet service throughout the entire day"

wolfman999 · 12-11-2006, 08:51

My exchange has recently gone through the LLU experience since which time, things have generally improved and I have a 8.1 mb connection.

However, things are still patchy/painfully slow at times so I suspect they are still struggling to meet demand at peak times.

I tend to use Utorrent and just leave it to get on with it overnight.

This link may be of interest http://www.portforward.com/default.htm

Hope this helps.

Insaneperson · 13-11-2006, 17:18

Thanks for the help so far.

MightyMing · 14-11-2006, 11:08

Hi

My TT too is very slow when up/down loading torrent files. However, I though the idea of a torrent was that it couldn't be picked up by an ISP. I thought my slow speeds circa 20/30kb/s were due to the torrent itslef and/or general slow broadband speed of TT.

In addition, my TT broadband keeps disconneting at random anyway, which means I have to re-boot everything and re-start the torrent, but that's another story!

MadMulla · 14-11-2006, 14:02

From when TalkTalk first appeared a couple of years ago they have used traffic shaping.

Back in the early days, P2P was completely blocked, as in you would be lucky to get 0.5k/s.

They use packet sniffing programmes, if it isn't HTTP or email traffic then it's shaped, if it's P2P then it's heavily shaped.

MadMulla · 14-11-2006, 14:06

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Originally Posted by wolfman999

This link may be of interest http://www.portforward.com/default.htm

Hope this helps.

Port forwarding will make no difference, TalkTalk examine the traffic no matter what port it comes through on. You can try enabling protocol encryption on your P2P programme, so TalkTalk have difficulty in seeing that it is P2P, it may help as long as enough people are also using it.

MadMulla · 14-11-2006, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich_jtg

TalkTalk website:

Maybe they are just cracking down on it now... though it does mention that if you constantly use a lot of bandwidth they "may restrict your general Internet service throughout the entire day"

Cracking down on it now, I was with TalkTalk a couple of years back when you had to pay, and they were cracking down on it back then.

A few people were getting away for a short while without much shaping.

TalkTalk didn't have capacity from day one, they still don't have capacity now.

natstally · 10-02-2007, 23:03

I know this is an old thread and the OP probably has an answer now but ...
I use TT, my connection speed is 1.1Mbps and a couple of months ago my download speeds dropped from average of 50-80kB/s to 1-5kB/s if i was lucky!
This week they have suddenly gone back up, no idea why!
Don't want to jinx it but just thought i'd tell people!

09-11-2006, 21:47	#1
Insaneperson Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,319	Talk Talk throttling? Have talk talk started throttling there service. I have never had any problems with my bittorrent speeds in the past but now I am unable to get it to go above 5KB/s. Anyone know why, and what can I do to help it, aside from switching to Utorrent? Would changing my port help, and if so how would I do that. Thanks.

14-11-2006, 14:02	#7
MadMulla Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Middle Earth. Posts: 1,121	From when TalkTalk first appeared a couple of years ago they have used traffic shaping. Back in the early days, P2P was completely blocked, as in you would be lucky to get 0.5k/s. They use packet sniffing programmes, if it isn't HTTP or email traffic then it's shaped, if it's P2P then it's heavily shaped. Last edited by MadMulla : 14-11-2006 at 14:04.

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11-11-2006, 17:39	#3
rich_jtg Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Yorkshire Services: Sky digital FTA, Panasonic E85, Humax 9200T Posts: 761	TalkTalk website: "Our fair use policy is designed to ensure your service is fast and reliable 24 hours a day. A very small number of customers use file-sharing software (commonly known as "peer to peer" or P2P) or other applications, which constantly send and receive video and other very large files. This type of activity uses a huge amount of bandwidth and can significantly reduce the speed at which our other customers can access the Internet, especially at peak times Our fair use policy restricts this high bandwidth activity in peak hours to allow the majority of customers to use their broadband connection for normal residential usage (I.e: surfing, e-mail, online gaming etc). This allows us to give you a high quality service 24 hours a day, 7 days a week." Maybe they are just cracking down on it now... though it does mention that if you constantly use a lot of bandwidth they "may restrict your general Internet service throughout the entire day"

12-11-2006, 08:51	#4
wolfman999 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tamworth, Staffordshire Services: Sky+ (160gb), Freeview,TalkTalkBroadband shared on a home network Philips Posts: 68	My exchange has recently gone through the LLU experience since which time, things have generally improved and I have a 8.1 mb connection. However, things are still patchy/painfully slow at times so I suspect they are still struggling to meet demand at peak times. I tend to use Utorrent and just leave it to get on with it overnight. This link may be of interest http://www.portforward.com/default.htm Hope this helps.

13-11-2006, 17:18	#5
Insaneperson Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,319	Thanks for the help so far.

14-11-2006, 11:08	#6
MightyMing Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8	Hi My TT too is very slow when up/down loading torrent files. However, I though the idea of a torrent was that it couldn't be picked up by an ISP. I thought my slow speeds circa 20/30kb/s were due to the torrent itslef and/or general slow broadband speed of TT. In addition, my TT broadband keeps disconneting at random anyway, which means I have to re-boot everything and re-start the torrent, but that's another story!

10-02-2007, 23:03	#10
natstally Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Gender: Female Location: West Yorkshire Services: Sky+HD Thomson 4E3009, Sky+ Thomson PVR3, TalkTalk Wireless BB. Posts: 379	I know this is an old thread and the OP probably has an answer now but ... I use TT, my connection speed is 1.1Mbps and a couple of months ago my download speeds dropped from average of 50-80kB/s to 1-5kB/s if i was lucky! This week they have suddenly gone back up, no idea why! Don't want to jinx it but just thought i'd tell people!