[Cornchips]

This year in order to create a whole new BB with a totally different feel to it the tasks should involve the HMs learning something. Everyweek they should be randomly broken up into teams (true randomness not pre-arranged by BB which is usually what happens) and each team should have to learn a skill which is to be taught to them by an expert who comes into the house for a couple of hours a day to do it. At the end of the week the teams should compete against each other and the winners (either decided by the public or a combination of judges and public) should win immunity from eviction with the opposing teams automatically going up for eviction with a "vote to save". They could learn anything from singing, dancing, carpentry, juggling - absolutely anything.

It make the streaming more interesting - it takes away the whole problem of the livlier characters being voted out early, it gives them something to do in there and would create a whole different feel to the programme which I think is something that is needed this year.

I think the whole bullying issue has been bubbling under the surface for a while now - obviously coming to a head during CBB this year - and by actually acting positively and giving them something to do with their time (which would also help them to work as teams) then this I think would make a more interesting element to the show.

[Veri]

It's a good suggestion, I think.

The "school" task in BB8 was a bit like that.

[RacerWelsh]

Throw em in the house with no clothes...........

[End-Em-All]

Excellent idea, OP.

[crikilburn]

But wasn't Fame Academy inspired by both Big Brother and Pop Idol?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Veri

It's a good suggestion, I think.

The "school" task in BB8 was a bit like that.

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[End-Em-All]

Originally Posted by crikilburn

But wasn't Fame Academy inspired by both Big Brother and Pop Idol?

That may be true but isn't it a shame that FA seems to be more enjoyable than most C/BBs of late?

[InMyArms]

Originally Posted by End-Em-All

That may be true but isn't it a shame that FA seems to be more enjoyable than most C/BBs of late?

I think that BB7 was more enjoyable than FA, and CBB5 was more enjoyable than FA up to Carole's eviction

[Veri]

Originally Posted by Omah

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Ok, BB7.

Maybe I'm subconsciously trying to forget about that one.

Which HMs had to learn Klingon?

[DavetheScot]

Originally Posted by Cornchips

This year in order to create a whole new BB with a totally different feel to it the tasks should involve the HMs learning something. Everyweek they should be randomly broken up into teams (true randomness not pre-arranged by BB which is usually what happens) and each team should have to learn a skill which is to be taught to them by an expert who comes into the house for a couple of hours a day to do it. At the end of the week the teams should compete against each other and the winners (either decided by the public or a combination of judges and public) should win immunity from eviction with the opposing teams automatically going up for eviction with a "vote to save". They could learn anything from singing, dancing, carpentry, juggling - absolutely anything.

It make the streaming more interesting - it takes away the whole problem of the livlier characters being voted out early, it gives them something to do in there and would create a whole different feel to the programme which I think is something that is needed this year.

I think the whole bullying issue has been bubbling under the surface for a while now - obviously coming to a head during CBB this year - and by actually acting positively and giving them something to do with their time (which would also help them to work as teams) then this I think would make a more interesting element to the show.

I love your idea. It keeps BB interesting without resorting to the recent tactics of deliberately promoting bullying and cliquiness.

Would help too if they actually put sane well-balanced people in the house, and avoided the troubled and dysfunctional.

[steve16]

Brilliant idea. I love the idea of teams.

Dunno about having an expert to come into the house, though. I don't think they'd go for that. Maybe just video instructions.

[Tissy]

Originally Posted by Cornchips

This year in order to create a whole new BB with a totally different feel to it the tasks should involve the HMs learning something. Everyweek they should be randomly broken up into teams (true randomness not pre-arranged by BB which is usually what happens) and each team should have to learn a skill which is to be taught to them by an expert who comes into the house for a couple of hours a day to do it. At the end of the week the teams should compete against each other and the winners (either decided by the public or a combination of judges and public) should win immunity from eviction with the opposing teams automatically going up for eviction with a "vote to save". They could learn anything from singing, dancing, carpentry, juggling - absolutely anything.

It make the streaming more interesting - it takes away the whole problem of the livlier characters being voted out early, it gives them something to do in there and would create a whole different feel to the programme which I think is something that is needed this year.

I think the whole bullying issue has been bubbling under the surface for a while now - obviously coming to a head during CBB this year - and by actually acting positively and giving them something to do with their time (which would also help them to work as teams) then this I think would make a more interesting element to the show.

Oh I quite like this idea

Fed up with the constant bitching and petty arguements At least this way they`ll have something to do and not get so bored. Plus it would give the viewers something to watch. It wouldn`t cost BB too much either.

[geoking66]

Originally Posted by Veri

Ok, BB7.

Maybe I'm subconsciously trying to forget about that one.

Which HMs had to learn Klingon?

I think Grace, Lisa, and Richard.

[||The Citizen||]

Originally Posted by geoking66

I think Grace, Lisa, and Richard.

Nikki did - didn't she i remeber her swearing in Klingon in the diary room at BB.

[Sprogg]

Originally Posted by aran

I think that BB7 was more enjoyable than FA, and CBB5 was more enjoyable than FA up to Carole's eviction

It's so true that CBB5 was gearing up to be a classic until Carole's eviction then it went all very very wrong.

Like the idea Cornchips. If anything it would mean tasks are meaningful again.

[thenetworkbabe]

Originally Posted by Cornchips

This year in order to create a whole new BB with a totally different feel to it the tasks should involve the HMs learning something. Everyweek they should be randomly broken up into teams (true randomness not pre-arranged by BB which is usually what happens) and each team should have to learn a skill which is to be taught to them by an expert who comes into the house for a couple of hours a day to do it. At the end of the week the teams should compete against each other and the winners (either decided by the public or a combination of judges and public) should win immunity from eviction with the opposing teams automatically going up for eviction with a "vote to save". They could learn anything from singing, dancing, carpentry, juggling - absolutely anything.

It make the streaming more interesting - it takes away the whole problem of the livlier characters being voted out early, it gives them something to do in there and would create a whole different feel to the programme which I think is something that is needed this year.

I think the whole bullying issue has been bubbling under the surface for a while now - obviously coming to a head during CBB this year - and by actually acting positively and giving them something to do with their time (which would also help them to work as teams) then this I think would make a more interesting element to the show.

Obviously not a good ideas given what has happened to CFA. On FA he public has been voting out who ever went on early and keeping whoever the judges say is dire (which in some cases is charitable) All the comics have gone apart from one coma inducing Scotsman with no timing. One of the two best female singers and one of the two best males singers have gone 6 days in. All thats left after tonight are the wacky Tara and the dull and the dire. There are two conclusions - either you risk getting an audience that ignores what happens and votes for any rason it fancies or no one votes so a few people voting bizarrely matters. I imagine thats why they give us such big fixed dramas in BB - its the only way to get a big vote and one thats predictable - you make the issue artificially big and spin it so simple folk only see it one way.

[bitchy_me]

Although I think planned tasks, lasting longer, are a wonderful idea, I do also agree with TNB to some extent. I am not sure asking the audience to vote is a good idea, let BB decide. The audience will vote on personality not on how well the housemates have done.

You have to take into account the personalities of the housemates too. In BB6 there was absolutely no way some of them would work together in tasks. They had no idea of working together and did not care about any punishments for not joining in.

I want to see longer tasks and punishment for not completing tasks, and no cheating by BB to make them pass just because some of them might have hissy fits if they have to live on basic rations! And basic rations should not be the only punishment, if someone doesn't join in with the tasks they should be punished personally as well.

[Cornchips]

Originally Posted by bitchy_me

Although I think planned tasks, lasting longer, are a wonderful idea, I do also agree with TNB to some extent. I am not sure asking the audience to vote is a good idea, let BB decide. The audience will vote on personality not on how well the housemates have done.

You have to take into account the personalities of the housemates too. In BB6 there was absolutely no way some of them would work together in tasks. They had no idea of working together and did not care about any punishments for not joining in.

I want to see longer tasks and punishment for not completing tasks, and no cheating by BB to make them pass just because some of them might have hissy fits if they have to live on basic rations! And basic rations should not be the only punishment, if someone doesn't join in with the tasks they should be punished personally as well.

I think the tasks being linked to the food budget is pointless. The most enjoyable weeks in BB for me have been the ones where they have had enough to eat and drink - the basic ration weeks are generally boring with them all sitting aroundmoaning about food and talking about what they would eat if they were out in the real world.

I think the only way to make tasks meaningful and to make everyone join in is to have the "eviction" tag associated with them - no matter what they say no one wants to go up for the public vote and no one wants to be evicted, so by making the losers the ones who go up for the public vote makes them work together as teams or else they are potentially out. Those who don;t join in get put up for the vote automatically.

I agree that the flaw is probably deciding on the winner - if the public decide then they will probably vote on personality rather than who was actually better, and if the judges decide there will always be accusationsof bias, or doing BBs bidding. However if you make the tasks so that they aren;t open to interpretation, i.e. you either achieve a certain level or you don't, then it makes it easier to see who has won and who has not. The most enjoyable weeks in all the bbs have been the ones where they have had to work together to achieve something, or where they have been practicing for something.

With regards to the voting in FA the problem is the sympathy vote from the public - its always a problem with all reality types shows - plus RP is an idiot which never helps.

[Reality Sucks]

Originally Posted by Cornchips

I think the tasks being linked to the food budget is pointless. The most enjoyable weeks in BB for me have been the ones where they have had enough to eat and drink - the basic ration weeks are generally boring with them all sitting aroundmoaning about food and talking about what they would eat if they were out in the real world.

I think the only way to make tasks meaningful and to make everyone join in is to have the "eviction" tag associated with them - no matter what they say no one wants to go up for the public vote and no one wants to be evicted, so by making the losers the ones who go up for the public vote makes them work together as teams or else they are potentially out. Those who don;t join in get put up for the vote automatically.

I agree that the flaw is probably deciding on the winner - if the public decide then they will probably vote on personality rather than who was actually better, and if the judges decide there will always be accusationsof bias, or doing BBs bidding. However if you make the tasks so that they aren;t open to interpretation, i.e. you either achieve a certain level or you don't, then it makes it easier to see who has won and who has not. The most enjoyable weeks in all the bbs have been the ones where they have had to work together to achieve something, or where they have been practicing for something.

With regards to the voting in FA the problem is the sympathy vote from the public - its always a problem with all reality types shows - plus RP is an idiot which never helps.

I think it's a great idea Cornchips - can't be helped that the public will give the sympathy vote. They could do voting by the website like they did in the covers band task (ie free to the public). I just like the idea of them doing something interesting and I always enjoy the fun tasks more than the bitching - The CBB5 tasks were quite good after they all were in the main house and if it hadn't been for the deliberate plan by the BB production team to cause friction with the introduction of the Goodys it might have been been a good show.

[Cornchips]

Originally Posted by Reality Sucks

I think it's a great idea Cornchips - can't be helped that the public will give the sympathy vote. They could do voting by the website like they did in the covers band task (ie free to the public). I just like the idea of them doing something interesting and I always enjoy the fun tasks more than the bitching - The CBB5 tasks were quite good after they all were in the main house and if it hadn't been for the deliberate plan by the BB production team to cause friction with the introduction of the Goodys it might have been been a good show.

I agree. I am sick to the back teeth of all the friction (esepcially when its forced). Some natural arguments are good - and if there aren't that many of them it makes them even more spectacular when they happen. However BB6 was the worst and BB7 wasn't much better.

I just want to see fun and what personality traits can be brought out of people if they have to pull together. If BB are going to steer clear of the bullying - which as I said has been bubbling around now since about BB5 then they need to keep them more occupied - plus of course they need to pick a better set of characters that actually have some dignity and some maturity.