Five News with Natasha Kaplinsky - Broadcasting

most_haunted · 18-02-2008, 17:04

Now I've not seen Five News for a good few years so I've no idea what it's normally like, but I thought I'd watch today anyway. And it's awful. It's so tacky and they've lead on some story about a banned driver.

There wasn't even a mention of Northern Rock!

Has it always looked/been this tacky?

charliechalk1 · 18-02-2008, 17:30

I was absolutely stunned... it was so so bad.
The lead story could have been created anytime in the last ten years... it was nonsense.
The rest of the show was seriously bland and not even as good as newsroom. They'll lose hundreds of thousands of viewers guaranteed.. especially when they're up against Richard and Judy and ITV programmes.

QPRKeithJ · 18-02-2008, 17:32

the presenter looked like a blob of makeup smudged onto a sofa.

18-02-2008, 17:34

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Originally Posted by charliechalk1

I was absolutely stunned... it was so so bad.
The lead story could have been created anytime in the last ten years... it was nonsense.
The rest of the show was seriously bland and not even as good as newsroom. They'll lose hundreds of thousands of viewers guaranteed.. especially when they're up against Richard and Judy and ITV programmes.

Its on again at 7 so it will probably get smashed even further up against The One Show (and the bit I seen today I think five news is similar to) and Emmerdale as well as the news on 4.

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Originally Posted by QPRKeithJ

the presenter looked like a blob of makeup smudged onto a sofa.

Thats exactly what she is

Roger5737 · 18-02-2008, 17:36

At least they have a functioning studio, more than what can be said for BBC News 24 (dire set that is falling to pieces). BBC News 24/BBC Nationals get their brand new studio/set/titles/graphics which includes a full rebrand, next month (end of March). Will be interesting to see the comparison and to see if the BBC make any effort to plug the new look.

18-02-2008, 17:40

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Originally Posted by Roger5737

At least they have a functioning studio, more than what can be said for BBC News 24 (dire set). BBC News 24/BBC Nationals get their brand new studio/set/titles/graphics next month (end of March) will be interesting to see the comparison.

Or a giant green box with crap graphics and a fake floor like ITV.

most_haunted · 18-02-2008, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Tom1007

Or a giant green box with crap graphics and a fake floor like ITV.

How can you actually call the 'News at Ten' set crap? :| It's amazing!

Roger5737 · 18-02-2008, 18:04

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Originally Posted by most_haunted

How can you actually call the 'News at Ten' set crap? :| It's amazing!

It beats the current cheap-looking News 24/BBC National News Sets (although since the National's have been in TC7 it is a little better). Be nice to see the new BBC News studio.

djonshore · 18-02-2008, 18:05

Talk about five news wanting to start a conversation. So five news, or should I say five no-news, or should it ever have the right to be called a news programme. It's more like a gossup than a news.

mossy2103 · 18-02-2008, 18:11

Yes, it was this piece from their website feature that cause thed alarm bells to ring

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Five News has always been creative and original, [n]but we will now be placing an even greater focus on inspiring real-life stories[/b]

http://www.fivetvonline.tv/your-news-story.php?news=85

18-02-2008, 18:21

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Originally Posted by most_haunted

How can you actually call the 'News at Ten' set crap? :| It's amazing!

Hence why I said ITV

News at Ten isn't under the ITV brand. I mean the generic ITV News ie lunchtime, evening, weekends etc.

Charnham · 18-02-2008, 18:34

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an even greater focus on inspiring real-life stories

sounds awful

meanwhile what I came in here to say, is that im fed up with five news changing every couple of years, I know five have to carry news, but im not sure its ever going to compete with BBC & ITV.

and anyone who uses the term "start a conversation" is a massive turn off for me, I want a news read to present facts, maybe a little discussion with experts, but not mass discussion.

redcrusader · 18-02-2008, 18:36

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Originally Posted by charliechalk1

I was absolutely stunned... it was so so bad.
The lead story could have been created anytime in the last ten years... it was nonsense.
The rest of the show was seriously bland and not even as good as newsroom. They'll lose hundreds of thousands of viewers guaranteed.. especially when they're up against Richard and Judy and ITV programmes.

Ha! I doubt they will lose many viewers to Richard and bloody Judy.

And, I went on the Five News website and there is NO NEWS,at all whatsoever.It is just all blog entries by Natasha Kaplinksky and co.

http://www.fivetvonline.tv/index.php

asp746 · 18-02-2008, 18:37

well, i thought it was ok. i'm happy with a synopsis of stories rather than in depth stuff that's available on c4.

also how many of us are affected by Northern Rock and how many of us are affected by uninsured drivers - so i know which story was more relevant to me the girl on the street.

thought the set was a bit big and that couch was way too long and she looked a bit lost on it.

as for natasha she did a great job - as always.

QPRKeithJ · 18-02-2008, 19:05

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Originally Posted by asp746

well, i thought it was ok. i'm happy with a synopsis of stories rather than in depth stuff that's available on c4.

also how many of us are affected by Northern Rock and how many of us are affected by uninsured drivers - so i know which story was more relevant to me the girl on the street.

thought the set was a bit big and that couch was way too long and she looked a bit lost on it.

as for natasha she did a great job - as always.

great piece by Amanda Platell on the daily mail website today, totally ripping Kraplinsky apart.

mb@2day · 18-02-2008, 19:12

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Originally Posted by redcrusader

Ha! I doubt they will lose many viewers to Richard and bloody Judy.

...............

Oh I think they might but they havnt got that a great many viewers at that time to shift over to four or ITV.

bignoise · 18-02-2008, 19:49

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Originally Posted by most_haunted

There wasn't even a mention of Northern Rock!

Yes there was - but you probably hadn't seen it because the programme had only been on for four minutes before you posted to complain!

I thought it was OK. Certainly too much "non-news" for my liking but that's no different to 99% of the rest of TV news in this country, sadly...

Gawd · 18-02-2008, 19:56

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Originally Posted by bignoise

Yes there was - but you probably hadn't seen it because the programme had only been on for four minutes before you posted to complain!

I thought it was OK. Certainly too much "non-news" for my liking but that's no different to 99% of the rest of TV news in this country, sadly...

- Her move has given five news at least a few new viewers

mossy2103 · 18-02-2008, 20:07

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Originally Posted by asp746

also how many of us are affected by Northern Rock and how many of us are affected by uninsured drivers - so i know which story was more relevant to me the girl on the street.

The fact that you appear to think that you are unaffected by Northern Rock shows why there needs to be coverage of it! The failure of a bank could have serious knock-on effects within the banking industry, and ttaking the bank into public ownership has increased Government debt markedly and has exposed the taxpayer to a possible risk should the whole thing collapse. It could also have a major effect on the fortunes of this Government, as well as its fortunes in the next election.

It IS important, even if it is not immediately apparent in everyday life

mossy2103 · 18-02-2008, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Gawd

- Her move has given five news at least a few new viewers

for a short period anyway

Gawd · 18-02-2008, 20:10

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Originally Posted by mossy2103

for a short perios anyway

Latin I presume

most_haunted · 18-02-2008, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Tom1007

Hence why I said ITV

News at Ten isn't under the ITV brand. I mean the generic ITV News ie lunchtime, evening, weekends etc.

Oh haha.

Is the normal ITV News set in that same green room then? I still think it's pretty good tbh.

most_haunted · 18-02-2008, 20:22

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Originally Posted by bignoise

Yes there was - but you probably hadn't seen it because the programme had only been on for four minutes before you posted to complain!

I thought it was OK. Certainly too much "non-news" for my liking but that's no different to 99% of the rest of TV news in this country, sadly...

It should've been on the headlines though tbf - it is pretty massive news, especially today. It wasn't mentioned for a good 15 minutes or so.

jaskers1983 · 18-02-2008, 20:24

All I have to say about the news programme is 'newsround'.

It was awful.

What happened to the jeans and t-shirt though??

DocumentaryFan · 18-02-2008, 20:29

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Originally Posted by djonshore

Talk about five news wanting to start a conversation. So five news, or should I say five no-news, or should it ever have the right to be called a news programme. It's more like a gossup than a news.

Not that this kind of news appeals to me, but let me play the devil's advocate for a moment:

Britain has a very diverse printed press, ranging from the populist to the fairly high-brow. People who read, say, the Guardian may dislike the tabloids and poke fun at them, but they generally accept their existence.

So why is a populist news service on television such a big deal? In today's TV environment, people have a choice of channels, and the BBC provides a service that is generally regarded as one of the journalistically most sound in the world. So why shouldn't Five take a populist approach?

If people can buy tabloid newspapers, why shouldn't they have access to populist TV news?

18-02-2008, 17:04	#1
most_haunted Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Kingdom Services: NTL Posts: 990	Five News with Natasha Kaplinsky Now I've not seen Five News for a good few years so I've no idea what it's normally like, but I thought I'd watch today anyway. And it's awful. It's so tacky and they've lead on some story about a banned driver. There wasn't even a mention of Northern Rock! Has it always looked/been this tacky?

18-02-2008, 20:24	#24
jaskers1983 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10	What happened to the jeans and t-shirt?? All I have to say about the news programme is 'newsround'. It was awful. What happened to the jeans and t-shirt though??

18-02-2008, 17:30	#2
charliechalk1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 233	I was absolutely stunned... it was so so bad. The lead story could have been created anytime in the last ten years... it was nonsense. The rest of the show was seriously bland and not even as good as newsroom. They'll lose hundreds of thousands of viewers guaranteed.. especially when they're up against Richard and Judy and ITV programmes.

18-02-2008, 17:32	#3
QPRKeithJ Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,733	the presenter looked like a blob of makeup smudged onto a sofa.

18-02-2008, 17:36	#5
Roger5737 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Services: Sky+ (Multiroom) & Freeview. Posts: 1,994	At least they have a functioning studio, more than what can be said for BBC News 24 (dire set that is falling to pieces). BBC News 24/BBC Nationals get their brand new studio/set/titles/graphics which includes a full rebrand, next month (end of March). Will be interesting to see the comparison and to see if the BBC make any effort to plug the new look.

18-02-2008, 18:05	#9
djonshore Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangor, Gwynedd, Wales Services: Freeview/Top-Up TV, Wireless Broadband Posts: 2,568	Talk about five news wanting to start a conversation. So five news, or should I say five no-news, or should it ever have the right to be called a news programme. It's more like a gossup than a news.

18-02-2008, 18:37	#14
asp746 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,756	well, i thought it was ok. i'm happy with a synopsis of stories rather than in depth stuff that's available on c4. also how many of us are affected by Northern Rock and how many of us are affected by uninsured drivers - so i know which story was more relevant to me the girl on the street. thought the set was a bit big and that couch was way too long and she looked a bit lost on it. as for natasha she did a great job - as always.