Yap Yap Rabbit Rabbit - Freeview

chrisy · 01-04-2008, 19:01

I'm slightly scared. Rabbit recently appeared on Ofcom's licence page, looking like some sort of Teletext-operated teleshopping channel.

Anybody know about this?

Charnham · 01-04-2008, 19:21

I want to say April fool

Ray Cathode · 01-04-2008, 20:02

Rabbit is really there! Wasn't there a Teletext Shopping licence once upon a time?

Maybe Teletext have bagged the extra 1Mbps from SDN on Mux A.

They were threatening to increase Teletext Holidays and Teletext Cars could do with an improvement.

Or it might just be the Playboy Channel.

Charnham · 01-04-2008, 21:17

I dont have any clue what this could turn out to be.

chrisy · 01-04-2008, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Cathode

Rabbit is really there! Wasn't there a Teletext Shopping licence once upon a time?

Yes, in fact this may well be a straight rename of that as the page name indicates it has been there a while.

Somebody said Teletext Shopping was shelved, and this doesn't have the Teletext branding. Must be a joint venture, or a Quiz Call-style "we don't want to associate ourselves with this" approach.

Quote:

Maybe Teletext have bagged the extra 1Mbps from SDN on Mux A.

I doubt it, SDN are still inviting proposals up to next week!

prking · 09-04-2008, 13:16

I see today that Teletext have handed back the license for Teletext Cars, so I would presume that Rabbit will replace Teletext Cars.

(Source: Ofcom, monthly Broadcast License Summary)

ironeagleuk · 09-04-2008, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

I see today that Teletext have handed back the license for Teletext Cars, so I would presume that Rabbit will replace Teletext Cars.

(Source: Ofcom, monthly Broadcast License Summary)

That Teletext cars License refers to satellite & cable.

Rabbit replaced Teletext Shopping
Source: Timeline of DTT Licenses for Channels since 25/02/2005

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Originally Posted by ironeagleuk

There has never been a Teletext Cars License (for DTT)....not since I have been keeping a sad record from Feb 2005

prking · 09-04-2008, 13:43

So when the service was live, it was broadcast without a license? Or were they broadcasting under the Teletext Shopping license, but didn't change the Service Name?

Either of these would be no-nos.

ironeagleuk · 09-04-2008, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

So when the service was live, it was broadcast without a license? Or were they broadcasting under the Teletext Shopping license, but didn't change the Service Name?

Either of these would be no-nos.

There was never a License for UKTV Bright Ideas...it was believed they used the UKTV Style license, which was renamed to UK Home Style

prking · 09-04-2008, 19:03

Well I've learned something today. It will be interesting to see what if anything launches.

Ray Cathode · 09-04-2008, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

So when the service was live, it was broadcast without a license? Or were they broadcasting under the Teletext Shopping license, but didn't change the Service Name?

Either of these would be no-nos.

I think all the "unlicensed channels" were on an annex to another licence. For instance Teletext and UKTV may have had several services all on one licence. These don't appear to be accessible by the general public.

As far as Teletext Cars is concerned, this used to be a service but now is just a front page for Teletext Extra as it has a bit rate inconsistent with a static caption. I don't see any reason why Teletext Extra can't be a hidden channel like the Thomson Download channel.

xtraterrestrial · 10-04-2008, 13:29

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Teletext is to launch an interactive dating service on Freeview next month.

The service, called Rabbit, will allow users to set up profiles with pictures sent in by mobile phone. A spokeswoman said the service was not replacing any others and would be carried on Multiplex A, operated by ITV subsidiary SDN.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...-freeview.html

ironeagleuk · 10-04-2008, 13:33

Hmmm...dating service called Rabbit?...as in breed like.....

Ray Cathode · 10-04-2008, 15:30

Hmm in post #3, I wondered if this would be using the 1Mbps recently put up for rent by SDN on Mux A. Can't see where else the bandwidth could come from.

Double hmmm.... the DS link updated 15.16 now says it's on Multiplex 2 replacing Teletext Cars???

Looks like Teletext Cars has been a placeholder for LCN102 so Teletext didn't lose the slot.

It wont have much of a bit rate then. Each photo will take 30 secs or more to load I bet.

paul_m · 10-04-2008, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironeagleuk

Hmmm...dating service called Rabbit?...as in breed like.....

or as in the sex toy?!

prking · 10-04-2008, 16:52

So it is going to replace Teletext Cars after all. I wonder if the Teletext Extra service will still be "behind" 102 as well.

Charnham · 10-04-2008, 21:55

how awful, I wont have anything to do with it

but I am single, so if anyone is interested

ironeagleuk · 10-04-2008, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnham

how awful, I wont have anything to do with it

but I am single, so if anyone is interested

might be some nice pics on there

Grannygrunt · 11-04-2008, 06:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironeagleuk

might be some nice pics on there

And some horrid ones!

GG

lstar337 · 11-04-2008, 07:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Cathode

It wont have much of a bit rate then. Each photo will take 30 secs or more to load I bet.

Seriously?

I would expect mobile phone pictures to load in pretty quick on 1Mb/s.

Large images were not that slow on old dial-up services.

nvingo · 11-04-2008, 08:44

The BBC Testcard W (MHEG "Easter Egg") takes a long time to download but that is fullscreen, much higher resolution than the typical mobile phone screen. Therefore a mobile phone image - rescaled to the lowest common denominator - would take only a few seconds at most.

steveboswell · 11-04-2008, 09:05

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Originally Posted by lstar337

I would expect mobile phone pictures to load in pretty quick on 1Mb/s.

It's not using ITV's spare 1Mbps (mux A), it's just replacing Teletext Cars on multiplex 2.

On a slightly related note: Does anyone remember the high-quality Kylie Minogue images that The Hits Xtra carried one day? There was a different (full screen) picture every hour, and I seem to remember it taking an age to load on our first Freeview box!

Bozz

Ray Cathode · 11-04-2008, 17:16

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Originally Posted by lstar337

Seriously?

I would expect mobile phone pictures to load in pretty quick on 1Mb/s.

Teletext Cars is about 42kbps with a dodgy 32kbps audio channel at the moment according to XOR.

lstar337 · 11-04-2008, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveboswell

It's not using ITV's spare 1Mbps (mux A), it's just replacing Teletext Cars on multiplex 2.

Yeah sorry, grabbed the wrong end of the stick.

Still, mobile phone pics are pretty low quality and should load ok.

Charnham · 11-04-2008, 18:15

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Originally Posted by ironeagleuk

might be some nice pics on there

no there wont, be they be awful, taken on a mobile picture, of them looking drunk, and thats just the good looking girls, the bad looking ones, will take a photo with there webcams, like every real picture on MySpace

01-04-2008, 19:01	#1
chrisy Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Beds (Sandy Heath TX) Services: DTT, DAB, Cable, Wii Posts: 5,942	Yap Yap Rabbit Rabbit I'm slightly scared. Rabbit recently appeared on Ofcom's licence page, looking like some sort of Teletext-operated teleshopping channel. Anybody know about this?

01-04-2008, 19:21	#2
Charnham Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: nr Peterborough, England Services: regenerating into wamdue Posts: 15,832	I want to say April fool

01-04-2008, 20:02	#3
Ray Cathode Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Guildford / Crystal Palace Services: Freeview; TUTV; FreeSat HD; FTA satellite; DAB; FM; DAT45+MRD; Log Periodic Posts: 7,375	Rabbit is really there! Wasn't there a Teletext Shopping licence once upon a time? Maybe Teletext have bagged the extra 1Mbps from SDN on Mux A. They were threatening to increase Teletext Holidays and Teletext Cars could do with an improvement. Or it might just be the Playboy Channel.

01-04-2008, 21:17	#4
Charnham Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: nr Peterborough, England Services: regenerating into wamdue Posts: 15,832	I dont have any clue what this could turn out to be.

09-04-2008, 13:16	#6
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Services: Freeview (T816 PVR, T825 PVR) Posts: 6,404	I see today that Teletext have handed back the license for Teletext Cars, so I would presume that Rabbit will replace Teletext Cars. (Source: Ofcom, monthly Broadcast License Summary)

09-04-2008, 13:43	#8
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Services: Freeview (T816 PVR, T825 PVR) Posts: 6,404	So when the service was live, it was broadcast without a license? Or were they broadcasting under the Teletext Shopping license, but didn't change the Service Name? Either of these would be no-nos.

09-04-2008, 19:03	#10
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Services: Freeview (T816 PVR, T825 PVR) Posts: 6,404	Well I've learned something today. It will be interesting to see what if anything launches.

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ironeagleuk Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Folkestone, Kent (Dover TX) Services: Nokia 9850T, Hauppauge Nova-T, Matsui TUTV1, Ferguson FPVR1T, Top Up TV+ Posts: 28,749	Hmmm...dating service called Rabbit?...as in breed like.....

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Ray Cathode Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Guildford / Crystal Palace Services: Freeview; TUTV; FreeSat HD; FTA satellite; DAB; FM; DAT45+MRD; Log Periodic Posts: 7,375	Hmm in post #3, I wondered if this would be using the 1Mbps recently put up for rent by SDN on Mux A. Can't see where else the bandwidth could come from. Double hmmm.... the DS link updated 15.16 now says it's on Multiplex 2 replacing Teletext Cars??? Looks like Teletext Cars has been a placeholder for LCN102 so Teletext didn't lose the slot. It wont have much of a bit rate then. Each photo will take 30 secs or more to load I bet.

10-04-2008, 16:52	#16
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Services: Freeview (T816 PVR, T825 PVR) Posts: 6,404	So it is going to replace Teletext Cars after all. I wonder if the Teletext Extra service will still be "behind" 102 as well.

10-04-2008, 21:55	#17
Charnham Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: nr Peterborough, England Services: regenerating into wamdue Posts: 15,832	how awful, I wont have anything to do with it but I am single, so if anyone is interested

11-04-2008, 08:44	#21
nvingo Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: wisbech, cambs / norfolk Services: Freeview: Sandy Heath; FTA DVB-S; Broadband:Tiscali Posts: 2,381	The BBC Testcard W (MHEG "Easter Egg") takes a long time to download but that is fullscreen, much higher resolution than the typical mobile phone screen. Therefore a mobile phone image - rescaled to the lowest common denominator - would take only a few seconds at most.