New software-Beware! - Freesat

Hellicopter · 27-05-2008, 18:22

1.00.07 appears to have disabled analogue HD output i.e. Component output .
Annoying screen message appears on BBCHD till you disable in main menu.

Alan

Ghostleader · 27-05-2008, 18:26

Whoa, this sounds cr*p, I hope this isnt a big brother moment from Freesat, Bobcat the man wants answers!

drunkenmonkey · 27-05-2008, 18:29

Yeah came up here as well! Just disabled it and all was fine! Can't see any other obvious changes!

Fastfocus · 27-05-2008, 18:34

Yep just downloaded here...

got the message on the screen while watching BBC HD

- is it something to do with stopping a HD signal being sent to dvd recorders as I was led to believe you cant record HD - like HD DVD has something on it to stop it being copied?

or I could be completely wrong!

Andy

Hellicopter · 27-05-2008, 18:34

It means for example that you cannot push component around the house using Cat 5 cable plus the poster getting a better picture on Component will be totally zapped!

It is to ensure that Component HD cannot be recorded thus bypassing HDCP protection on the HDMI output.

Everybody- this looks like a very bad move and warrants howls of protest.

Alan

Ghostleader · 27-05-2008, 18:34

One of the guy's here was singing the Humax boxes praise's, and said that one of the main reasons he bought it was because Component output, bet he's a bit p*ssed off!

son_t · 27-05-2008, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostleader

Whoa, this sounds cr*p, I hope this isnt a big brother moment from Freesat, Bobcat the man wants answers!

It is probably a Freesat directive, which Bob_Cat won't be able to comment on...

Hellicopter · 27-05-2008, 18:39

Avoidable by not downloading the new software though.

Alan

Ghostleader · 27-05-2008, 18:43

Why should some early LCD & Plasma adopters be punished like this, I can't get away with the fact they have just pumped it over the air with no anouncement or nout, I dont even own one of these soft picture producing units and feel sorry for anybody who has shelled out, must be feeling like proper tw*ts, anybody under 30 days with it, take it back under T.S. law, i.e. not suitable for the purpose it was bought for.

Bob_Cat · 27-05-2008, 18:45

It is indeed a requirement of the specification, it only applies to certain events where HD Content protection is signalled by the broadcaster and is often required by the rights holders. Feel free to contact the broadcaster if you feel in some way put out by this, please don't attack Humax.

Bendix · 27-05-2008, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob_Cat

It is indeed a requirement of the specification, it only applies to certain events where HD Content protection is signalled by the broadcaster and is often required by the rights holders. Feel free to contact the broadcaster if you feel in some way put out by this, please don't attack Humax.

But the update is not being advised on the Humax site ... why ?

ozsat · 27-05-2008, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellicopter

Avoidable by not downloading the new software though.

I think you'll find that the box will auto-update later on its own.

Automan · 27-05-2008, 18:48

I suppose for those who bought the product to work with their component video HD TV it is the pits....

No fix for HDMI wide-screen and now not an option via component

Automan.

ozsat · 27-05-2008, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bendix

But the update is not being advised on the Humax site ... why ?

It was updated the next day last time!

Ghostleader · 27-05-2008, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob_Cat

It is indeed a requirement of the specification, it only applies to certain events where HD Content protection is signalled by the broadcaster and is often required by the rights holders. Feel free to contact the broadcaster if you feel in some way put out by this, please don't attack Humax.

Here, here, so I take it the Alba corp gear will be be getting the same treatment, but if its a legal requirement, why give you the OPITION to download it & not by stealth like $ky boxes?

Ghostleader · 27-05-2008, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Automan

I suppose for those who bought the product to work with their component video HD TV it is the pits....

No fix for HDMI wide-screen and now not an option via component

Automan.

Yes including some early Sony LCD owners, Nigel!!!!!!LOL

justmegt · 27-05-2008, 18:53

This is a bombshell. I have a 32” LCD in my front room with no HDMI. The Foxsat was destined for that TV. Does this mean I can only get HD through my SCART or Composite input.? This is disastrous.

son_t · 27-05-2008, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostleader

Here, here, so I take it the Alba corp gear will be be getting the same treatment, but if its a legal requirement, why give you the OPITION to download it & not by stealth like $ky boxes?

The Alba boxes don't have component out...

Bob_Cat · 27-05-2008, 18:57

It only applies to services or programme content which is signalled to be restricted by the broadcaster.

We sent the details to be updated to our web publishing department in Korea, however by the time we new it was going on air they were asleep. However the update would normally happen overnight and the viewers would be able to see the log in the morning for any information.

Ghostleader · 27-05-2008, 18:58

I cant be bothered with this c*ap what's next, I am suprised $ky havent done a Japanese NHK and introduced an additional charge for being able to record HD stuff! Oh s*it now they have the idea,D'oh!

ozsat · 27-05-2008, 18:58

When a programme is signalled as such - will that programme also be blocked via the SCART output?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob_Cat

It only applies to services or programme content which is signalled to be restricted by the broadcaster.

We sent the details to be updated to our web publishing department in Korea, however by the time we new it was going on air they were asleep. However the update would normally happen overnight and the viewers would be able to see the log in the morning for any information.

Halo3 · 27-05-2008, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob_Cat

It only applies to services or programme content which is signalled to be restricted by the broadcaster.

Any examples of programmes, could that be everything shown?

Bendix · 27-05-2008, 19:00

last update documented on Humax site is ...

Software Version: HZPTSF 1.00.05

so if this is .07, i wonder what .06 did ??

Ghostleader · 27-05-2008, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by justmegt

This is a bombshell. I have a 32” LCD in my front room with no HDMI. The Foxsat was destined for that TV. Does this mean I can only get HD through my SCART or Composite input.? This is disastrous.

None of these outputs are "Wired" nor have the bandwith to display HD material, so in a nut shell, your stuffed!

Halo3 · 27-05-2008, 19:02

So basically the Component output is just for show now then?

27-05-2008, 18:22	#1
Hellicopter Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 89	New software-Beware! 1.00.07 appears to have disabled analogue HD output i.e. Component output . Annoying screen message appears on BBCHD till you disable in main menu. Alan

27-05-2008, 18:45	#10
Bob_Cat Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Surrey, UK Services: BeThere and NO TV! Posts: 1,007	Don't shoot the messenger. It is indeed a requirement of the specification, it only applies to certain events where HD Content protection is signalled by the broadcaster and is often required by the rights holders. Feel free to contact the broadcaster if you feel in some way put out by this, please don't attack Humax.

27-05-2008, 18:26	#2
Ghostleader Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Glasgow,ish! Services: 37' 1080 Panasonic,Sky2MixPak,fone&BB. FTA13&19, AljSports on Passion HD. Posts: 547	Whoa, this sounds cr*p, I hope this isnt a big brother moment from Freesat, Bobcat the man wants answers!

27-05-2008, 18:29	#3
drunkenmonkey Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Glasgow Services: Plusnet BBYW3, VoIP, Freesat, Integrated Freeview Posts: 33	Yeah came up here as well! Just disabled it and all was fine! Can't see any other obvious changes!

27-05-2008, 18:34	#4
Fastfocus Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bucks,UK Services: Freeview - Sky Digital - BETHERE 24mb ADSL 2 Internet, Posts: 51	Yep just downloaded here... got the message on the screen while watching BBC HD - is it something to do with stopping a HD signal being sent to dvd recorders as I was led to believe you cant record HD - like HD DVD has something on it to stop it being copied? or I could be completely wrong! Andy

27-05-2008, 18:39	#8
Hellicopter Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 89	Avoidable by not downloading the new software though. Alan

27-05-2008, 18:43	#9
Ghostleader Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Glasgow,ish! Services: 37' 1080 Panasonic,Sky2MixPak,fone&BB. FTA13&19, AljSports on Passion HD. Posts: 547	Why should some early LCD & Plasma adopters be punished like this, I can't get away with the fact they have just pumped it over the air with no anouncement or nout, I dont even own one of these soft picture producing units and feel sorry for anybody who has shelled out, must be feeling like proper tw*ts, anybody under 30 days with it, take it back under T.S. law, i.e. not suitable for the purpose it was bought for.

27-05-2008, 18:48	#13
Automan Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: South Coast, UK Services: Sky+ HD 500G, FoxSat-HDR, TH-46PZ8BA, TX-SR806, BD-35 Posts: 4,064	I suppose for those who bought the product to work with their component video HD TV it is the pits.... No fix for HDMI wide-screen and now not an option via component Automan.

27-05-2008, 18:53	#17
justmegt Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cambs Services: Foxsat, TF5800PVR, Hauppauge WinTV HVR 4000, PZ81, screens 20-50". o2 BB Posts: 1,685	This is a bombshell. I have a 32” LCD in my front room with no HDMI. The Foxsat was destined for that TV. Does this mean I can only get HD through my SCART or Composite input.? This is disastrous.

27-05-2008, 18:57	#19
Bob_Cat Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Surrey, UK Services: BeThere and NO TV! Posts: 1,007	It only applies to services or programme content which is signalled to be restricted by the broadcaster. We sent the details to be updated to our web publishing department in Korea, however by the time we new it was going on air they were asleep. However the update would normally happen overnight and the viewers would be able to see the log in the morning for any information.

27-05-2008, 18:58	#20
Ghostleader Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Glasgow,ish! Services: 37' 1080 Panasonic,Sky2MixPak,fone&BB. FTA13&19, AljSports on Passion HD. Posts: 547	I cant be bothered with this cap what's next, I am suprised $ky havent done a Japanese NHK and introduced an additional charge for being able to record HD stuff! Oh sit now they have the idea,D'oh!

27-05-2008, 19:00	#23
Bendix Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Services: Sony X series TV, Humax Foxsat HD/HDR Posts: 62	last update documented on Humax site is ... Software Version: HZPTSF 1.00.05 so if this is .07, i wonder what .06 did ??

27-05-2008, 19:02	#25
Halo3 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Devon/Bristol Services: Sky+/VM XL Posts: 139	So basically the Component output is just for show now then?