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Old 31-05-2008, 11:27   #1
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The Hap-Hap-Happy Wii owners thread

So this week I've been playing through the sublime Mario Kart Wii, and also I've pre-ordered the beautiful Okami and Smash Bros. Brawl for my next bout of gaming goodness. And it's struck me - I am absolutely and thoroughly loving the gaming scene on Wii at the moment. Along with MKWii, I'm constantly into Pro Evo 2008, which to me is a perfect example of what the remote is capable of, and also I'm always playing through Mario Galaxy. The nice thing about Galaxy is my relationship with the game has started to deepen if you know what I mean. Much like it did once with Mario 64 and Super Mario World.

I didn't expect to feel like this about games again at my age, and had not so long ago almost written off the whole thing, ready to walk away from it and pursue more worthwhile hobbies. But suddenly I'm feeling like I'm right back into it all with a vengeance.

My collection so far:

Zelda: Twilight Princess
Excite Truck
Metroid Prime 3
Super Mario Galaxy
Night Journey of Dreams
Tomb Raider Anniversary
PES2008
Resident Evil 4
Mario Kart Wii
FIFA08
Mercury Meltdown
Big Brain Academy
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Wii Sports (Obv.)

With like I say Okami and Smash Bros. on the way. Okay, there's a couple of party games in there that the missus bought, but even then I've still found time to enjoy them with the family.

It's difficult all this, because I'm so used to being very cynical! But as it seems so popular to paste the Wii these days, I thought it wouldn't hurt to post up a bit of Wii love.

So. Anyone with me, or have you all got PS3's now!
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Old 31-05-2008, 12:02   #2
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I agree totally. I think the Wii is fantastic. I seem to have more games I like playing than I have time to play and I still haven't bought Mario Galaxy yet!
As you say the Pro Evo controls are great, I love the Mario Kart wheel and Medal of Honor Heroes 2 has the best FPS controls on a console (closely followed by Metroid prime 3).
I know a lot of people don't like the "waggle" thing and call it a gimmick but I think it'll be a shame if the next gen consoles don't have something like the Wiimote.

I originally thought that I'd end up with a Wii and a PS3 but to be honest at the moment there aren't really many games I'd want for the PS3. I'm pretty bored of the whole GTA thing and although MGS4 is out soon it will take more than that for me to shell out £300 for one.

I wouldn't buy a 360 unless the reliability was sorted and online play was free, which is never going to happen. I also (rightly or wrongly) see the 360 game catalogue pretty much limited to FPS and driving games.
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Old 31-05-2008, 12:04   #3
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Im with you. I love the Wii and I still play Wii sports now and then too.
There are plenty of great games, but the only problem is having time to play them all and also being able to afford them.
My next game will be Sambe de Amigo as its a big hit in our house on the Dreamcast, but at the moment it has one problem which is the wires that either get tangled up or slip under the base unit which restrics your movements of the maracas so the Wii version will be very welcome and from what ive read in NGamer mag its looking good and the controls work very well indeed. Cant Wait.
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Old 31-05-2008, 12:12   #4
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Im very happy with my wii.I have played some superb games, mario galaxy and metroid prime 3 being the very best games iv played on any of the curent gen consoles.Im not sure about the line up for the rest of the year, i can see quite a few games being announced the next couple of months though.I still need to pick upn zack and wsiki and PES wii
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I know a lot of people don't like the "waggle" thing and call it a gimmick but I think it'll be a shame if the next gen consoles don't have something like the Wiimote.

I originally thought that I'd end up with a Wii and a PS3 but to be honest at the moment there aren't really many games I'd want for the PS3. I'm pretty bored of the whole GTA thing and although MGS4 is out soon it will take more than that for me to shell out £300 for one.
A lot of people use the "waggle" thing when bashing the console, but the truth is there aren't that many instances of actually waggling the remote in games at all. The main one that springs to mind is the shake/spin move in Galaxy, and there's quite a bit of waggling in Rabbids. But other than that I've found most implications of the remote to be much more sophisticated than simply "waggling" it.

And yes, I too thought the Wii wouldn't do it on it's own, and had been looking at the PS3 and 360 also. But the truth is, other than GTA and maybe Soul Calibur and Street Fighter 4, I just don't care for the games they offer at the moment. Maybe later on. We'll see. But for now the Wii is really hitting the mark for me.

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My next game will be Sambe de Amigo as its a big hit in our house on the Dreamcast, but at the moment it has one problem which is the wires that either get tangled up or slip under the base unit which restrics your movements of the maracas so the Wii version will be very welcome and from what ive read in NGamer mag its looking good and the controls work very well indeed. Cant Wait.
Crikey, Samba de Amigo. I forgot about that one. Definitely one to watch.

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...I still need to pick up zack and wiki...
And that's another one that looks great. I'm going to have to find these cheap. Or get a better job. I'm going to be skint! And people complain about a lack of games...

Still, glad it's not just me feeling the Wii love.
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Old 31-05-2008, 14:08   #6
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I agree with this 100%. I've had a Wii since just after launch, and while it doesn't get as much use as i'd like, the quality of games on offer is extremely good. Ok, so some of it is rubbish, but the sheer volume of games now available for the Wii means that even if 50% is good, that's a lot more quality games for a nintendo console than we had in the past (I go back to SNES days)

I've seem to have amassed a decent number of games already without even trying, and there are still plenty out there i would buy if i felt i had the time to play them.

I know a number of people with PS3s, and some of them just don't like the Wii because of its graphics. I agree completely that graphics on PS3 trounce the wii, but that's not what the wii's about. No way would i get my mum & dad and both my in-law's (all in their 60's), playing a PS3. They've all enjoyed the wii though, and have even bought one.

I know there are various supply issues with games, but if you are lucky and look in the right place, you can get what you want. (eg, MKWii picked up on launch day without preorder, Wii Fit almost bought in tesco 2 wks after launch (decided to leave it for now))

I for one can't wait to see what Nintendo come up with next.
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Old 31-05-2008, 15:53   #7
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Wii love from me!
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Old 31-05-2008, 16:11   #8
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I'm a happy Wii owner!

Like claymore74, I've also managed to amass a fair few games without really trying, and there are others I would buy if I wasn't still trying to get though Guitar Hero, Mario Galaxy and (of course) Mario Kart Wii (although I did have a short break from those for LostWinds).

I don't understand why some people complain about the lack of good games . I love my Wii, and when my family come round they're always playing on it too.
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Old 31-05-2008, 16:34   #9
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I know a number of people with PS3s, and some of them just don't like the Wii because of its graphics. I agree completely that graphics on PS3 trounce the wii, but that's not what the wii's about.
The PS3's graphics certainly do trounce the Wii, but then the Wii is perfectly capable of being home to graphics that wouldn't look out of place on a PS3, but it doesn't happen - why should developers for the Wii bother producing fine graphics when the Wii community have proved they'll lap up any old shit?

If High-Votage's claims regarding "The Conduit" is anything to go by, then all other developers, including Nintendo, should hang their heads in shame.

I'm happy the Wii is a hit, but as Nintendo consoles go, for me, it's probably the most exasperatingly under-supported and under-exploited Nintendo console I've ever owned. Both issues Nintendo could do something about, but seemingly can't be arsed.

When you see what the PS3 is actually capable of, and the multitude of useful applications, media capabilities, BluRay and expansion options it offers the user, and the fact it's only another £100 on top of the cost of a Wii, it does make the Wii's asking price seem somewhat extortionate.

May the Wii live long, but may it offer some useful channels, decent software and solve the woefully lacking storage issues a lot sooner!
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Old 31-05-2008, 17:32   #10
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I'm happy the Wii is a hit, but as Nintendo consoles go, for me, it's probably the most exasperatingly under-supported and under-exploited Nintendo console I've ever owned. Both issues Nintendo could do something about, but seemingly can't be arsed.

When you see what the PS3 is actually capable of, and the multitude of useful applications, media capabilities, BluRay and expansion options it offers the user, and the fact it's only another £100 on top of the cost of a Wii, it does make the Wii's asking price seem somewhat extortionate.
For me, your first paragraph would have been appropriate in the GameCube days. After being a Nintendo fan since the NES days, the GC was the one system where I felt like Nintendo didn't care what happened next. At the moment, I agree the Wii has yet to be fully explored, but I've no doubt this will happen in time. Devs are finally starting to feel their way with the console - look at PES2008. Not only is it a radical rethink of the game, but it works fantastically. And on top of that it's selling really well. The GC was left to rot, but I don't feel the Wii will suffer the same fate in the long term.

As for comparisons to the PS3...I dunno. I suppose the PS3 has had a series of price drops recently that have made it a bit more palatable. But I still say - where are the games? At the moment there's little on it to tempt me as a gamer away from my Wii. It has other capabilities for sure, but one of the reasons the Wii has been so successful thus far is because there is no fudgery of its abilities, It's clearly a games machine. That's what it does, and there's no confusion. In that respect I'm really pleased that the Wii has taken off. The multimedia abilities of the other systems have done more to scare people off than anything imo. Many people just think - "Well, I just want to play some games. What's the point in spending £300+ on a PS3 to do all this stuff that I'm never going to use". That's before you even consider that this cost is likely to rise if you don't have a HD set.

I wouldn't diss the other systems, and I didn't want to create comparisons and arguments here. They all have their merits, and I quite fancy a PS3 myself anyway (though I don't have the requisite HD set). But as this is a Wii love thread, I think I speak for everyone when I say - hush!
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The PS3 isn't £300+ and you don't need a HDTV to enjoy it. Games look stunning on a standard SDTV.
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Old 31-05-2008, 17:57   #12
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The PS3 isn't £300+ and you don't need a HDTV to enjoy it. Games look stunning on a standard SDTV.
It's over £300 if you want a game with it. Not much point owning one otherwise.

I've used my PC on my SDTV and on my HDTV. The difference is unbelievable. Anyone who thinks they are getting the full experience of the PS3 or Xbox360 on an SDTV is kidding themselves.
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Old 31-05-2008, 17:59   #13
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The PS3 isn't £300+ and you don't need a HDTV to enjoy it. Games look stunning on a standard SDTV.
Sorry. It's £290 and thereabouts. I'm glad to hear it looks so good on a standard TV, since it means I won't have to shell out if I get one. But I have to say I've heard quite the opposite on many games forums, where users have complained of unreadable text on SD sets.

Still, like I say, I didn't want to end up with silly side-taking arguments here. I didn't allude to it in my first post, and just wanted to hear from satisfied Wii gamers who perhaps didn't like the stigma that all hardcore playaz have the other consoles. I know they're out there!
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Old 31-05-2008, 18:40   #14
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For me, your first paragraph would have been appropriate in the GameCube days. After being a Nintendo fan since the NES days, the GC was the one system where I felt like Nintendo didn't care what happened next. At the moment, I agree the Wii has yet to be fully explored, but I've no doubt this will happen in time. Devs are finally starting to feel their way with the console - look at PES2008. Not only is it a radical rethink of the game, but it works fantastically. And on top of that it's selling really well. The GC was left to rot, but I don't feel the Wii will suffer the same fate in the long term.

As for comparisons to the PS3...I dunno. I suppose the PS3 has had a series of price drops recently that have made it a bit more palatable. But I still say - where are the games? At the moment there's little on it to tempt me as a gamer away from my Wii. It has other capabilities for sure, but one of the reasons the Wii has been so successful thus far is because there is no fudgery of its abilities, It's clearly a games machine. That's what it does, and there's no confusion. In that respect I'm really pleased that the Wii has taken off. The multimedia abilities of the other systems have done more to scare people off than anything imo. Many people just think - "Well, I just want to play some games. What's the point in spending £300+ on a PS3 to do all this stuff that I'm never going to use". That's before you even consider that this cost is likely to rise if you don't have a HD set.

I wouldn't diss the other systems, and I didn't want to create comparisons and arguments here. They all have their merits, and I quite fancy a PS3 myself anyway (though I don't have the requisite HD set). But as this is a Wii love thread, I think I speak for everyone when I say - hush!
Hush indeed!

I think you can enjoy what the Wii has to offer, without turning a blind eye to it's more lacking and annoying features.

I agree, the GC was left to rot. Nintendo are not the best at making the most of support for their consoles. And I do think they're taking the same route with the Wii.

Quite happy to rake in the quick sales of gimmicky expensive add-ons of extremely limited application, such as the "balance board"; instead of addressing something like the infuriating and restrictive lack of onboard memory. They're quite happy to push this beyond limits with 40MB Wiiware downloads and force the constant copying to and from numerous backup SD cards or PC.

The channels, a handful of Wiiware titles and a couple of VC games and your memory's full!

At least we have Wii-orgs working on adapting the USB connection to handle an external drive. Why this has to be done by Linux coders and not Nintendo, I'll never know!

It's almost like Nintendo only half-realise the potential in this cash cow, and seem intent on restricting it left, right and centre!

The Wii's great, but could be a whole lot greater!
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:31   #15
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The point of this for me was, that while it's very easy to be cynical about it, the Wii really has actually offered up some very clever new ideas. The idea of a fitness game seems such a silly simple one, but for many it's changed their ideas of just what a video game can be. It's not for me, and I agree it's over priced, but for many it's turned their perception of gamers and gaming on its head.

It's probably true that Nintendo have tied the Wii's shoelaces as far as tech specs are concerned, but then that was never going to be a focus because it costs the end user more money, and their drive has always been to keep the cost of the system low. There are other consoles available if you want a lot of HDD space etc. The Wii won't ever be about that, but I'm well impressed that Linux/Wii fans are doing something about it. Historically, Nintendo have always tied their systems up one way or another. Look at the N64 with its little cartridges when everyone else was on CD, or the GC with all its power and ability, but those tiny, stupid, easily filled DVDs. I guess now we have the Wii with no storage space!

My bottom line, and the reason I started my love letter of a thread, was that simply put I'm really enjoying my gaming on it. Not only has it been great fun, but it's rekindled a love of gaming I've not felt for quite some time. I actually want to spend time gaming lately.

I'm really pleased about that.
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:40   #16
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It's over £300 if you want a game with it. Not much point owning one otherwise.

I've used my PC on my SDTV and on my HDTV. The difference is unbelievable. Anyone who thinks they are getting the full experience of the PS3 or Xbox360 on an SDTV is kidding themselves.
I paid £330 for my PS3 (40gb) and four games (R&C, Uncharted, The Orange Box and F1: CE) all brand new.

Lol, don't even go there with comparing PC to TV against PS3 to TV. Your computer running through S-Video leads to the TV and that will give a very dull, lifeless image - I know, I've tried it myself. The PS3, on the other hand, runs through RGB SCART and gives a beautiful crisp image with text as clear as anything.
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The PS3 isn't £300+ and you don't need a HDTV to enjoy it. Games look stunning on a standard SDTV.
For any console, an RGB Scart connection is all you need for a good quality SD picture. It had worked well for the PS2, GC, Xbox etc in the past and wil probaby be more than adequate for the job of producing good quality visuals.

I know that HD is a huge step up for gaming in the visuals department, but many people simply do not have the extra dough for an HDTV and therefore an SD RGB system or S-video are good alternatives - not much of a fan of Composite connections.
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For any console, an RGB Scart connection is all you need for a good quality SD picture.
Except with the PS3 you have the green screen problem with DVD's and Bluray films if you use RGB. Also games will only play at a maximum of 50Hz which can cause jerkiness with some titles.

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I paid £330 for my PS3 (40gb) and four games (R&C, Uncharted, The Orange Box and F1: CE) all brand new.
You did very well then. The PS3 seems to have gone up in price recently and you'd be hard pressed to find a deal as good as that at the moment.

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Old 31-05-2008, 21:18   #19
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To me graphics are not everything. I have been there,had consoles with the good graphics. But the games didnt keep me amused for long,once the wow factor wore off I got bored. But thats me and there is no point in comparing consoles.

I love the Wii. I have been playing consoles since sega master system and super nintendo. When I play games I want to have fun and don't wanna be just playing shooting and racing games,thats why I brought the Wii,Nintendo don't bog us down with the same old games. I had grand theft auto san andreas on the ps2,it was so hyped I brought it,yeah great fun going around shooting people,lol,yeah not my type of game,and knowing of children of about 12 are playing it makes me wonder.

Getting Wii fit when it came out made me even happier that I have a Wii.
Loving mario kart, res evil uc,wii sports,Zack&wiki,mario and sonic at the olympics .
Hurrah to Nintendo :-)
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Old 31-05-2008, 21:23   #20
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If I win the lottery I'd buy another Wii to go along with my PS3. Absolutely nothing wrong with the wii controls....far from it. In the end I was an online junkie, pretty much only reason I moved....but like I say would have another back in a flash.

I still absolutely hate anyone saying wii isnt this elusive "next gen".
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Old 31-05-2008, 22:44   #21
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I'm loving my Wii!

Got it at launch and to be honest, didn't play it for some time through the middle of last year. But since Christmas, I've been completely hooked again! Currently jumping between MKWii, Pro Evo and Guitar Hero myself and of course still playing Galaxy and Excite Truck regularly. Still have the likes of Metroid Prime and SSX to get through and then I have a list of at least 3 or 4 other games that came out yonks ago, that I still want to get.

The ironic thing, is that everytime I turn the Wii on with the intention of playing a game, I often end up getting drawn into a Virtual Console/Wii Ware gaming session first.

Just two problems I find - (1) Not nearly enough memory on the console and (2) not nearly enough money in my bank account to get everything I want.
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Old 31-05-2008, 23:08   #22
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Also games will only play at a maximum of 50Hz which can cause jerkiness with some titles.
That's just wrong. All games on the PAL PS3 are fully optimised to run at full speed and don't cause any jerkiness at all.

You do realise that 50hz PAL is superior to 60hz NTSC, right? When done right of course.
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That's just wrong. All games on the PAL PS3 are fully optimised to run at full speed and don't cause any jerkiness at all.

You do realise that 50hz PAL is superior to 60hz NTSC, right? When done right of course.
The games are designed to run at 60Hz but the PAL PS3 doesn't have a 60Hz option (despite the PS2, Gamecube etc having the option). Either you slow the game down (like PAL sonic on the Megadrive) to get all the frames in or you skip frames which can then cause jerkiness. PAL may be superior but if the games are designed for 60Hz they're going to run better at 60Hz.
I've seen this mentioned online for Motorstorm, Ridge Racer 7 and Devil May Cry.
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No, you don't get it do you? All PAL games have been optimised to run at full speed.
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:14   #25
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Nintendo have reminded us all that graphics don't matter. I'm playing Super Metroid on the Wii and within a minute you get over how it looks and the game gets its' hooks into you.

The Wii has enabled me to go back and play all the games i've forgotten about or it's just not feasible to play. (Connecting a snes to a 42" panel through it's composite outputs looks horrid, but through the Wii it's great.)
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