[D. Sky D.]

The name listed in the EPG for channel number 843 has changed from You Play TV to Monte Carlo TV

[JSemple3]

The 53340 test label for the NFL channel now has No Listings Available.

[skyisthebest]

The 'YouPlay TV2' label (off the EPG) is now showing a tech fault message.

The 'Discovery Knowledge +1' test label is now showing coloured bars and tone.

[paradisiac]

sorry new to this, but what is all this about test labels and all?

[skyisthebest]

Casino TV has been added to 852 in the EPG.

[pkc]

Originally Posted by paradisiac

sorry new to this, but what is all this about test labels and all?

Test Labels are channels testing ready for a possiblle launch, interactive streams, transponder moves etc... Each week a list of all current tests, news (see post #1, #2) etc is produced...

[The Unknown One]

Originally Posted by paradisiac

sorry new to this, but what is all this about test labels and all?

Before launching onto the Sky EPG, channels have to undergo a series of tests to get everything up and running and to make sure it's all working properly. The normal pattern for this is that a test label will appear on a transponder. Following the appearance of a label, EPG data is usually added, at which point we can often guess at what the channel will turn out to be. Then a testcard and/or black level usually indicate that video testing is immiment. Following usually a week of video testing, the test label is re-named to the channel name, and is then added to the EPG, allowing you to access it via a channel number. We can watch these tests off the EPG, by using the Add Channels and then Other Channels features of the digibox.

So, taking the Discovery Knowledge +1 test as a for instance. This is on 11.222H under the label '52060'.

So press Services, then Add Channels, and enter -

11222 as the frequency (the '.' will appear automatically).

Change the polarity to 'H'.

Arrow down to Find Channels and press Select.

When the list of channels appears, find '52060', highlight it, and press yellow.

Press Select and then Select again.

Press Services again, go to Other Channels. Find '52060', and press Select to view.

Other channels listed on RR's round-up on Post #1 can be added in the same way. Sometimes channels are blocked to digiboxes, but most that will become channels on the EPG are usually visible.

A bit long-winded but I hope that helps.

[paradisiac]

so people find these tests by trial and error with frequenceys?

[davemurgatroyd]

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

According to the regional programming:

12110 is an Anglia
12130 is a Tyne Tees
12140 is one of the Centrals

The answer to these ITV encrypted channels appears to lie in this email received from ITV posted in another thread on the freesat forum

Originally Posted by killeenjd

Okay, I have already received a reply from ITV. And I have no idea what it means:

Thank you for your email.

The launch of Freesat has coincided with a contractual change in our transponder line up from SES Astra, this has resulted in one less 2D transponder being available for ITV services. In order to manage overspill of ITV services into Europe as a result of this change a low level of Conditional Access encryption known as Automatic Entitlement will be applied to some ITV1 services.

Regards
Duty Office - jh

From this thread (post #74)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...=817655&page=3

[The Unknown One]

Originally Posted by paradisiac

so people find these tests by trial and error with frequenceys?

Well to a certain extent yes, but some people have non-Sky satellite receivers which allow them to scan transponders quickly and flag up any new labels that may have appeared.

[Analoguesat]

Originally Posted by davemurgatroyd

The answer to these ITV encrypted channels appears to lie in this email received from ITV posted in another thread on the freesat forum


From this thread (post #74)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...=817655&page=3

Looks like they are losing 10714H in that case......

[davemurgatroyd]

In order to manage overspill of ITV services into Europe as a result of this change a low level of Conditional Access encryption known as Automatic Entitlement will be applied to some ITV1 services.

Does this mean that the freesat boxes do in fact have some form of Conditional Access encryption and thus in fact are not FTA boxes, and hence their panic to get the "add channels" feature on all boxes.

[pkc]

Originally Posted by davemurgatroyd

Does this mean that the freesat boxes do in fact have some form of Conditional Access encryption and thus in fact are not FTA boxes, and hence their panic to get the "add channels" feature on all boxes.

Reminds me of the BSB days - lol.... oh the pain the pain of it all :P

[pkc]

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

Looks like they are losing 10714H in that case......

so what is going on to that transponder if ITV have lost it.

[pkc]

Originally Posted by davemurgatroyd

Does this mean that the freesat boxes do in fact have some form of Conditional Access encryption and thus in fact are not FTA boxes, and hence their panic to get the "add channels" feature on all boxes.

Anyone know what CA they are using... does your non-sluggiboxes tell you.

[Analoguesat]

Originally Posted by pkc

Anyone know what CA they are using... does your non-sluggiboxes tell you.

NDS Videoguard

[Analoguesat]

Originally Posted by pkc

so what is going on to that transponder if ITV have lost it.

Channel 5 & family......maybe

You could start all sorts of amusing rumours with this info.

You watch - by the end of the week we will have posts telling us that all of UKTV, and most of the Virgin channels are going fta on 2D.....

[davemurgatroyd]

Originally Posted by pkc

Anyone know what CA they are using... does your non-sluggiboxes tell you.

12005, 12100, 12101, 12110, 12120, 12130, 12140, 12199 all NDS encryption and viewable on Sky card in Dragon CAM on Technomate TM9100.

[Strathclyde]

But what is this "low level CA" that is "automatic entitlement" ???

The Freesat boxes don't have an encryption decoding capability. Are we talking about something akin to DVD player regionalisation.... pretty easy to hack in almost every case ?

[ozsat]

Originally Posted by davemurgatroyd

Does this mean that the freesat boxes do in fact have some form of Conditional Access encryption and thus in fact are not FTA boxes, and hence their panic to get the "add channels" feature on all boxes.

The ITV1 regions which have started up recently are blocked on Freesat boxes with the 'add' option as the channels are encrypted.

[ozsat]

Originally Posted by Strathclyde

But what is this "low level CA" that is "automatic entitlement" ???

I guess it means that are FTV - no card required but you do need a Sky box.

[blueplatinum]

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

Looks like they are losing 10714H in that case......

Well the test ITV regions that you reported do not map directly onto the ones on that TP. Apart from anything else there is no sign of ITV2+1 on the tests.

If the regions they put on here are going to be absent from freesat then it would make sense for them to put one version of split regions on here i.e. so if you are used to getting a flavour of Central you still get a Central (albeit the wrong one) on freesat. They could then use the red button (as per ITV HD) when regional news comes on to allow freesat viewers to select their own regional news.

ITV2 + 1 would have to remain on 2D as there is only one version of it. Could be bad news here in Canaries as we can get it at present (our only non ITV1 ITV).

I wonder when the Now & Next data will appear?

[blueplatinum]

Originally Posted by ozsat

I guess it means that are FTV - no card required but you do need a Sky box.

FTV does require a card in a SKY box.

[ozsat]

Originally Posted by blueplatinum

FTV does require a card in a SKY box.

Then some ITV regions may need a card

[ozsat]

Some of the ITV1 regions do now need a viewing card.