Full official list of receivers incompatible with 8k mode - Freeview

chrisy · 12-09-2008, 19:33

As found in another thread, link to the PDF of DigitalUK's official non-8k compatible list:
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/2kequipment

(This follows on from the old List of IDTVs and STBs incompatible with 8k thread which, for some inexplicable reason, has been locked)

bignoise · 12-09-2008, 20:45

That's rather annoying. Almost every STB I own is on that list.

Also annoying that Digital UK cheerily say that all 2k-only IDTVs can be easily "upgraded" by adding a set-top-box... talk about missing the point.

And the Pace DTVA, one of my favourite STBs - also no good. What a bunch of crap. Not sure why they think that there were "none sold" of the Sony VTX-D500 box - I'm pretty sure that's not true.

"Gone digital? Spent a lot of money on a digital TV or set top box? Sorry, you'll have to buy a new one". I'm pretty sure that's not how it was meant to go.

Still, at least 8k is far, far away... isn't it? Maybe Sky should say that they want to transmit their channels in 8k so that Ofcom can delay it for so long that the UK gives up the idea entirely.

chrisy · 12-09-2008, 22:39

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Originally Posted by bignoise

That's rather annoying. Almost every STB I own is on that list.

I'm rather surprised at how many new-ish boxes are on that list (there's even some IDTVs from as recently as 2005) and, yeah, the Sony and the Pace DTVA I recall both as being pretty popular (and the Sony was quite expensive at the time - there's an awful lot of Sony IDTVs on the list as well, must have had a job lot of cheap 2k DVB-T tuners). My old IDTV is there, but I knew that anyway - I intend to replace it with a shiny new DVB-T2 HDTV before DSO turns up here.

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Still, at least 8k is far, far away... isn't it?

Hardly, it comes in at DSO for each region AFAIK. That's only two months away.

Chris

Ray Cathode · 13-09-2008, 00:17

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Originally Posted by chrisy

Hardly, it comes in at DSO for each region AFAIK. That's only two months away.

Chris

That used to be the official position. All mention of 8k has now been removed from the latest Ofcon/Digital UK regional transmitter frequency allocation tables. Why??

I can only assume that the switch to 8k may now take place at a later date than DSO; maybe when HD arrives in 2010?

TUTV Viewer · 13-09-2008, 10:37

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Originally Posted by bignoise

Not sure why they think that there were "none sold" of the Sony VTX-D500 box - I'm pretty sure that's not true.

From memory there were none sold by Ondigital.

I recall what appeared to be a warehouse full of non-mheg Sony boxes appearing on the market shortly after ITV-Digital collapsed.

David (2) · 13-09-2008, 16:33

I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown!

chrisy · 14-09-2008, 09:31

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Originally Posted by Ray Cathode

That used to be the official position. All mention of 8k has now been removed from the latest Ofcon/Digital UK regional transmitter frequency allocation tables. Why??

I can only assume that the switch to 8k may now take place at a later date than DSO; maybe when HD arrives in 2010?

According to DigitalUK "A few of the oldest digital boxes and TVs will stop working at switchover", they then go and link to the above PDF, which clearly states "If your box or IDTV has stopped working and is not listed contact your retailer or the manufacturer for confirmation that it is a 2K COFDM only model."

Therefore the switch to 8k is still happening at switchover, unless DigitalUK don't know what is going on (and I'd hope they do).

fmradiotuner1 · 14-09-2008, 09:35

We have 2 freeview boxs and they are not on the list but are quite old now from 2003.

MartinImber · 14-09-2008, 11:08

I thought the Sony IDTVs were compatible? I wonder if I complain if they would send me a new TV?

ccarmock · 14-09-2008, 12:55

The Sony IDTV I have is listed here (yet Sony UK couldn't confirm whether it was compatible or not).

I have the KV32DS60 It carrys a DVB logo on the front. wasn't 8K part of the original DVB standard?

I assume the 'upgrade' that this document lists isn't a tuner swap, but rather is the additional on an external set to box?

I knwo the tuners in these TVs are modular, since when purchased it didn't support MHEG but Sony offered free upgrades. The engineer took the back off and pulled out the tuner card and replaced it with a different one.

MartinImber · 14-09-2008, 18:56

I might ask for the value of my TV off a KDL46W4000

MartinImber · 14-09-2008, 19:00

DTVA goes on Ebay next week!

StuartB · 15-09-2008, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisy

As found in another thread, link to the PDF of DigitalUK's official non-8k compatible list:
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/__data/as...er_13May08.pdf

(This follows on from the old List of IDTVs and STBs incompatible with 8k thread which, for some inexplicable reason, has been locked)

Yes that was my thread, I did ask for it to be unclosed but it may as well be merged with this one.
Bold are additions to my list from the DigitalUK list, italic were on my list but not on DigitalUK list so status uncertain

8k incompatible:

On/ITVDigital boxes:

Nokia 9850T (early versions)
Philips DTX 6370
Philips DTX 6371
Philips DTX 6372
Pioneer DBR-T200GB some DBR-T210GBS
Pace DTR-730 (early). later versions & 735 perhaps OK
all DT730 and DT735
Sony VTX-D500
Toshiba DTB2000

Freeview boxes:
Pace DTVA-T

IDTVs:
Panasonic TX-28DT2
Panasonic TX-32DT2
Panasonic TX-28DT30
Panasonic TX-32DT30
Panasonic TX-36DT30
Panasonic TX-36DT35
Grundig MW70-500
Grundig MW82-500
Grundig MW70-502
Grundig MW82-502
Grundig MW70-505
Grundig MW82-505
Grundig MW70-600
Grundig MW82-600
Grundig MW70-605
Grundig MW82-605
Philips 28DW6734
Philips 32DW6834
Philips 32DW9625
Philips 28DW6557
Philips 32SW6557
Sony 28DS60
Sony 32DS60
Sony 28DS65
Sony 32DS65
Sony 28DX20
Sony 32DX20
Sony 28DX30
Sony 32DX30
Sony 28DS20
Sony 32DS20
Toshiba 28WT98B
Toshiba 32WT98B
Toshiba 28ZT29B
Toshiba 32ZT29B
Toshiba 36ZT29B
Toshiba 42WT29B
Toshiba 50WT29B
Toshiba 57WT29B

And of course not forgetting the Split Nit killed boxes

The Panasonic models above I had added to the list as only 2k was mentioned in the specs, only some of these also appear in the DTG list.

gomezz · 17-09-2008, 16:54

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Originally Posted by bignoise

And the Pace DTVA, one of my favourite STBs - also no good.

Strange! Just been doing some A/V kit rationalisation today and thought I would try rescanning my Pace DTVA which has been sitting there unplugged, unused and unloved for three years. Scans fine, works fine. Was going to Freecycle it but may get a tenner for it as it is still fully working.

StuartB · 17-09-2008, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

Strange! Just been doing some A/V kit rationalisation today and thought I would try rescanning my Pace DTVA which has been sitting there unplugged, unused and unloved for three years. Scans fine, works fine. Was going to Freecycle it but may get a tenner for it as it is still fully working.

It will only work until DSO then the lack of 8k compatibility will mean it will then become useless.

nvingo · 17-09-2008, 19:56

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Originally Posted by gomezz

..thought I would try rescanning my Pace DTVA which has been sitting there unplugged, unused and unloved for three years. Scans fine, works fine.

I take it that received the OAD required for Top-Up-TV then?

gomezz · 17-09-2008, 20:37

Er ... I think so. It is now sitting in a box of unused bits waiting for me to decide what to do with it so I won't be firing it up to check the firmware level. Seem to recall it was lasted updated around December 2005. Would that be about right?

Carpathian · 18-09-2008, 08:46

Oh well, there goes my Panny TX-32DT30

It's been dying bit by bit over the last few years as OAD's stopped for it and now it's going to keel over completely.

Does anybody know about the Thomson DHD4000 PVR?
I've seen no mention of that and it's been around for a few years now.........?

nvingo · 18-09-2008, 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

Er ... I think so. It is now sitting in a box of unused bits waiting for me to decide what to do with it so I won't be firing it up to check the firmware level. Seem to recall it was lasted updated around December 2005. Would that be about right?

I believe it was then yes. I also have it stashed for future use, better make that soon

ps68060 · 18-09-2008, 09:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisy

As found in another thread, link to the PDF of DigitalUK's official non-8k compatible list:
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/__data/as...er_13May08.pdf

(This follows on from the old List of IDTVs and STBs incompatible with 8k thread which, for some inexplicable reason, has been locked)

The first link gets redirected to their home page. Could someone say how to find the page please ?

StuartB · 18-09-2008, 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ps68060

The first link gets redirected to their home page. Could someone say how to find the page please ?

It seems to have disappeared. I have a copy rescued from my cache let me know if you need it.

D-J-S · 18-09-2008, 11:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartB

It seems to have disappeared. I have a copy rescued from my cache let me know if you need it.

I wouldn't mind having a look at that list please.

brush2805 · 18-09-2008, 12:03

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/_media/en...3may08.pdf.pdf

ShaunW · 18-09-2008, 15:38

Is my PANASONIC TX28DTM1 doomed ?.

chrisy · 18-09-2008, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ps68060

The first link gets redirected to their home page. Could someone say how to find the page please ?

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/help/technical_help (you can get to this through the Help tab followed by Technical Help on the left sidebar), scroll down to the last question on the page.

12-09-2008, 19:33	#1
chrisy Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Beds (Sandy Heath TX) Services: DTT, DAB, Cable, Wii Posts: 5,941	Full official list of receivers incompatible with 8k mode As found in another thread, link to the PDF of DigitalUK's official non-8k compatible list: http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/2kequipment (This follows on from the old List of IDTVs and STBs incompatible with 8k thread which, for some inexplicable reason, has been locked) Last edited by DS Forum Support : 04-03-2009 at 22:38. Reason: A133433

12-09-2008, 20:45	#2
bignoise Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Services: Sky, Cable and Freeview Posts: 4,059	That's rather annoying. Almost every STB I own is on that list. Also annoying that Digital UK cheerily say that all 2k-only IDTVs can be easily "upgraded" by adding a set-top-box... talk about missing the point. And the Pace DTVA, one of my favourite STBs - also no good. What a bunch of crap. Not sure why they think that there were "none sold" of the Sony VTX-D500 box - I'm pretty sure that's not true. "Gone digital? Spent a lot of money on a digital TV or set top box? Sorry, you'll have to buy a new one". I'm pretty sure that's not how it was meant to go. Still, at least 8k is far, far away... isn't it? Maybe Sky should say that they want to transmit their channels in 8k so that Ofcom can delay it for so long that the UK gives up the idea entirely.

13-09-2008, 16:33	#6
David (2) Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the middle of nowhere Services: Sony Bravia LCD, Freesat-HD, Freeview HDD/DVD combi, DAB, 6.3Mb Broadband Posts: 10,464	I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown!

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fmradiotuner1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: CLACTON-ON-SEA Services: Sky HD 4 mix & Max 15mb 85cm dish , N95 on 3 , PS3 , DAB , FM radio eton e5 Posts: 2,931	We have 2 freeview boxs and they are not on the list but are quite old now from 2003.

14-09-2008, 11:08	#9
MartinImber Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcester (Using Sutton Coldfield) Services: Sony KV32DX20 IDTV, Pace DTVA (bedroom), Pace Twin, & decent Home Cinema setup Posts: 2,471	I thought the Sony IDTVs were compatible? I wonder if I complain if they would send me a new TV?

14-09-2008, 12:55	#10
ccarmock Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 124	The Sony IDTV I have is listed here (yet Sony UK couldn't confirm whether it was compatible or not). I have the KV32DS60 It carrys a DVB logo on the front. wasn't 8K part of the original DVB standard? I assume the 'upgrade' that this document lists isn't a tuner swap, but rather is the additional on an external set to box? I knwo the tuners in these TVs are modular, since when purchased it didn't support MHEG but Sony offered free upgrades. The engineer took the back off and pulled out the tuner card and replaced it with a different one.

14-09-2008, 18:56	#11
MartinImber Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcester (Using Sutton Coldfield) Services: Sony KV32DX20 IDTV, Pace DTVA (bedroom), Pace Twin, & decent Home Cinema setup Posts: 2,471	I might ask for the value of my TV off a KDL46W4000

14-09-2008, 19:00	#12
MartinImber Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcester (Using Sutton Coldfield) Services: Sony KV32DX20 IDTV, Pace DTVA (bedroom), Pace Twin, & decent Home Cinema setup Posts: 2,471	DTVA goes on Ebay next week!

17-09-2008, 20:37	#17
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 8,958	Er ... I think so. It is now sitting in a box of unused bits waiting for me to decide what to do with it so I won't be firing it up to check the firmware level. Seem to recall it was lasted updated around December 2005. Would that be about right?

18-09-2008, 08:46	#18
Carpathian Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Geordieland (Pontop Pike) Services: Echostar T101+, DHD4000, VirginXL broadband Posts: 561	Oh well, there goes my Panny TX-32DT30 It's been dying bit by bit over the last few years as OAD's stopped for it and now it's going to keel over completely. Does anybody know about the Thomson DHD4000 PVR? I've seen no mention of that and it's been around for a few years now.........?

18-09-2008, 12:03	#23
brush2805 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 211	http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/_media/en...3may08.pdf.pdf

18-09-2008, 15:38	#24
ShaunW Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gtr Manchester Services: Sky+ & IDTV, Orange broadband, Windows XP, Orange Mobile, Ipod Nano. Posts: 242	Is my PANASONIC TX28DTM1 doomed ?.