[OneF'inFalkirk]

Well, in my opinion anyway!

The last night of local evening shows on the Bauer stations, to be replaced by the 100% weegified and probably one of the worst of the evening shows, Romeo!!

Listened to Forth One, and thought Mark Martin handled it very well, good luck to the guy!

I hope Bauer, like GMG, realise the error of their ways sometime in the future

[gadgetbuyer]

Originally Posted by OneF'inFalkirk

Well, in my opinion anyway!

The last night of local evening shows on the Bauer stations, to be replaced by the 100% weegified and probably one of the worst of the evening shows, Romeo!!

Listened to Forth One, and thought Mark Martin handled it very well, good luck to the guy!

I hope Bauer, like GMG, realise the error of their ways sometime in the future

Totally agree... for the past few weeks I've been listening to Karen B on Tay FM via Internet Radio. A really good, well supported show. It will be replaced by utter crap!

[wavejockglw]

I doubt if Bauer will and suspect its only the beginning in terms of shared programming.

Maybe it is a bit sad but GMG have the luxury of over 2 million potential listeners served by two main transmitters so for them its not deadly in terms of costs to provide a 24/7 locally produced service. They do of course network at other times though and if any company has set the trend for networking in Scotland it is GMG. Smooth is an example of how little local programming you need to provide to make a station sound local!!

Meanwhile its all change for the Bauer FM's from Monday and within a few weeks I suspect most folks will simply take it for granted that they have a new evening schedule and think little more about it. You never know, some might prefer the shows from Glasgow!!

The Bauer AMs will surely follow with shared programming off-peak throughout Scotland.

One consolation is that all of the Bauer programming will still come from Scotland and that is unique for a major group.

[Black Label]

Originally Posted by OneF'inFalkirk

I hope Bauer, like GMG, realise the error of their ways sometime in the future

The thing about networking is that the cost savings aren't huge as at present the stations still have to employ tech- ops to babysit the shows and play out the local ads etc.

At GMG the extra costs of bringing back local presenters on Real Vs a tech-op aren't great. Just as an aside, I know for a fact that the reason Scot FM of old employed overnight presenters was that they would otherwise had to employed a security guard to look after the place overnight, so they might as well just have someone on air.

As has been announced, the cost savings of the Bauer networking are only about 50k (presumably due to tech-op costs) so I accept that is being done from a progranming perspective. If it proves a dud, I dare say they will make the same reverse as GMG.

[OneF'inFalkirk]

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

I doubt if Bauer will and suspect its only the beginning in terms of shared programming.

I agree, i wonder what will be next?

[Matt-08]

Why do they need someone to "babysit"

I always thought the presenter pressed a button in the network studio and that fires the command on all the local stations to play the ads/sweepers?

[wavejockglw]

Originally Posted by Matt-08

Why do they need someone to "babysit"

I always thought the presenter pressed a button in the network studio and that fires the command on all the local stations to play the ads/sweepers?

My understanding is that EMAP installed new networking systems at all the local stations in Scotland before Bauer took over. I doubt if they require any local input to playout local jingles and adverts. The AMs also have the same systems now too.

[the wellser]

Probably just a measure until everything is sorted, surely?

Originally Posted by Matt-08

Why do they need someone to "babysit"

I always thought the presenter pressed a button in the network studio and that fires the command on all the local stations to play the ads/sweepers?

yes but if the ads weren't lined up properlly and failed to play, then the station would more than likely have it's backup tape kicked in! You can't gurantee that networked producers will be monitoring the sound for each station...as they have other jobs(answering phones,lining up callers,making presenters cups of teaetc)

[belleville1]

From Bauer:

Bauer Media's Radio Network launches a major, Scotland-wide programming initiative for its FM evening and night-time output on Monday 15 September.

The Group introduce Scottish National Programming across the stations from 7pm into the small hours, giving the stations the chance to deliver high-quality programmes, broadcast from Scotland, specifically tailored for Scottish listeners.

In Demand from 7pm-10pm Monday-Friday will be hosted by Romeo and will attract a high profile of the biggest and breaking guests, bands and artists to appear 'live and exclusive' across the network. The show will be innovative and there are exciting plans for backstage broadcasts, live sessions and unusual money can't buy competition prizes.

Late night Gina McKie will broadcast across Scotland from 10pm -1am and will play great songs and take late night calls on various themes around love, sex and relationship issues.

Regional Programme Director, Duncan Campbell said:

"We're delighted to be launching these shows throughout all the Bauer stations in Scotland. We're very excited about the presenters and the format and believe that the content and music is going to be stronger than ever."

So it looks like that dreadful, dour Clyde phone-in is going national. That's the most depressing programme I've ever heard on commercial radio. So in a way, yes, it's a sad night for Scottish radio, but not as sad as every night will be come Monday.

[wavejockglw]

Originally Posted by belleville1

So it looks like that dreadful, dour Clyde phone-in is going national. That's the most depressing programme I've ever heard on commercial radio. So in a way, yes, it's a sad night for Scottish radio, but not as sad as every night will be come Monday.

What might seem dreadful to some might be groundbreaking interesting new radio for others.

For goodness sake let the listeners who have not heard the programme tune in and decide for themselves.

[Black Label]

Regional Programme Director, Duncan Campbell said:

"We're delighted to be launching these shows throughout all the Bauer stations in Scotland. We're very excited about the presenters........"

Ye Gods, if Duncan is 'really excited' about Romeo then he must lead a very dull life indeed.

Indeed, a depressing weekend for Scottish radio.

[taygirl]

I think it is the most depressing night ever i Listened to Karen and Euan on Thursday and both did very well especially Karen who had been doing 7 til 10 for 6 years. She did well to keep it together as i know i would have been in bits. Joe Brodie on Friday as well sounded slighly emotional as he said his goodbye.

The thing is i had calmed down a little and though well i should be open minded and give it a chance so i listened on line again to Clyde and well Romeo what do you say
and as for Gina i reckon the suicide rates will go through the roof i reallly don't care if you sleep with some one on the first date and which celeb you want to be stick in a lift with. What is so funny is i am sure she is trying to have an intelligent condversation and at that time of night intelligent is not really the word that comes to mind for all the callers

I still strongly believe that Bauer have made a very big mistake and they will have to change their output very quickly as exciting is not a word i would use for Romeo and ground breaking is deffianly not how i would describe Gina's show.

RIP local radio it was fun while it lasted

[OneF'inFalkirk]

Originally Posted by belleville1

So it looks like that dreadful, dour Clyde phone-in is going national. That's the most depressing programme I've ever heard on commercial radio. So in a way, yes, it's a sad night for Scottish radio, but not as sad as every night will be come Monday.

Totally agree, this is one of the worst shows i have ever heard on Clyde, or on local radio. It's a shame they just took the easy way out by just weegifying everything, and whilst Romeo's evening show certainly wasn't the strongest of Bauer's evening shows, i have to concede that it may well just be accepted in the long run.

However, i just can't see the same happening with this dreadful phone in. People may put up with Romeo if the music, etc, is ok, but Bauer have now effectively chased people across Scotland away from their stations if they don't fancy listening to some cheesed up call in show! For ****s sake, if they wanted to do that they may as well have gone the whole hog and employed Scottie!!

[mike blair]

I am sorry to see the end of Colin McArdle's show on West FM ...and I am an old guy.....now my only local ILR or whetever its called these days, is Clyde 1 or West FM ooops sorry Clyde 1 or Clyde 1...don't think I'll bother!

I didn't hear any of Northsound 1's night shows ths week so can't say what was said but today the breakfast DJ just said that "were some line up changes happening from Monday, tune in on Monday to find out more". It seems to me that they are trying to keep pretty quiet about this!

[DirtyTrucker]

they have a techop in scotland instead of a security guard which makes sense really for gmg. all the other sites have no tech ops and it is all done from manchester

Originally Posted by taygirl

I think it is the most depressing night ever i Listened to Karen and Euan on Thursday and both did very well especially Karen who had been doing 7 til 10 for 6 years. She did well to keep it together as i know i would have been in bits. Joe Brodie on Friday as well sounded slighly emotional as he said his goodbye.

The thing is i had calmed down a little and though well i should be open minded and give it a chance so i listened on line again to Clyde and well Romeo what do you say
and as for Gina i reckon the suicide rates will go through the roof i reallly don't care if you sleep with some one on the first date and which celeb you want to be stick in a lift with. What is so funny is i am sure she is trying to have an intelligent condversation and at that time of night intelligent is not really the word that comes to mind for all the callers

I still strongly believe that Bauer have made a very big mistake and they will have to change their output very quickly as exciting is not a word i would use for Romeo and ground breaking is deffianly not how i would describe Gina's show.

RIP local radio it was fun while it lasted

This networking is nonsense. I agree with you Karen B, Euan Notman John Miline and Joe Brodie are the presenters who the Tay Fm listeners want to hear. Not shows from Clyde One Glasgow.
A Scottish MP Danny Alexander also suggested that losing regional radio programming could restrict the ability of local emergency information being distributed.

[ney]

Will the AM stations be changing as well.

Darren

Originally Posted by DirtyTrucker

they have a techop in scotland instead of a security guard which makes sense really for gmg. all the other sites have no tech ops and it is all done from manchester

It's not very secure then is it. Anybody could break in and the tech op wouldn't know because he'd be in the studio.
Doesn't big groups like GMG pay a company to provide security anway?

[wavejockglw]

Originally Posted by Midnight Caller

This networking is nonsense. I agree with you Karen B, Euan Notman John Miline and Joe Brodie are the presenters who the Tay Fm listeners want to hear. Not shows from Clyde One Glasgow.
A Scottish MP Danny Alexander also suggested that losing regional radio programming could restrict the ability of local emergency information being distributed.

It's not nonsense at all, its perfectly sensible. Off-peak shows can be distributed to all Scottish stations from a single location and its not within the remit of commercial radio to be a public service broadcaster.

Dundee more than most areas should know all about networking, its Tesco town and what has been happening re the changes in shopping patterns is simply being replicated now with commercial radio. The industry is simply coming of age and these new arrangemnts bring it into line with commercial and public service television and radio which have always relied on networking.

Its very simple really, things have moved on and audience levels simply don't justify hiring a presenter to sit in each area 24/7. One other consideration is that whilst a local commercial compeditor spews out non-stop tunes it makes sense for others to play what they consider to be a stronger live programme across the country.

I have no doubt that whilst its sad for a few the vast majority will be unaffected by the new arrangemnts and its possible that the wider audience will make youth phone-in shows like Gina McKie's work even better.

Lets stop all the crocodile tears and see what happens after a few weeks of the new shows.

[teevee]

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

It's not nonsense at all, its perfectly sensible. Off-peak shows can be distributed to all Scottish stations from a single location and its not within the remit of commercial radio to be a public service broadcaster.

Dundee more than most areas should know all about networking, its Tesco town and what has been happening re the changes in shopping patterns is simply being replicated now with commercial radio. The industry is simply coming of age and these new arrangemnts bring it into line with commercial and public service television and radio which have always relied on networking.

Its very simple really, things have moved on and audience levels simply don't justify hiring a presenter to sit in each area 24/7. One other consideration is that whilst a local commercial compeditor spews out non-stop tunes it makes sense for others to play what they consider to be a stronger live programme across the country.

I have no doubt that whilst its sad for a few the vast majority will be unaffected by the new arrangemnts and its possible that the wider audience will make youth phone-in shows like Gina McKie's work even better.

Lets stop all the crocodile tears and see what happens after a few weeks of the new shows.

That's fine for you to say, coming from the 'host' city- but we will lose our local presenters we know and love be it in Dudee, Edinburgh or Aberdeen.
Again we lose out to a Glasgow broadcast- why can't Glasgow take a broadcast from Dudee, Edinburgh or Aberdeen for a change!!!

[Steven Oliver]

Originally Posted by ney

Will the AM stations be changing as well.

Darren

Forth 2 already has, during the week - their 2200-0100 late show on Mondays to Fridays is voice-tracked instead of being live (the overnights, as we know, are automated).

Thank goodness Radio Borders no longer takes Forth 2 at nights - it was bad enough having to put up with the voice-tracked overnights.

[wavejockglw]

Originally Posted by teevee

Again we lose out to a Glasgow broadcast- why can't Glasgow take a broadcast from Dudee, Edinburgh or Aberdeen for a change!!!

Utterly silly comment as AM services overnight used to be networked across the Central Scotland area from Forth Street in Edinburgh. I know that because I decided not to accept a job doing that show some years ago.

I'm quite positive there will be few losers and this whole discussion in a few weeks will be regarded as nothing more than a storm in a teacup that has no relevance to the vast majority of local listeners.

[taygirl]

Thats because the vast majority of listeners were not aware of what was happening. I know of one listener who when she found out what was happening just said i will turn off the radio now as i don't want to hear Cldye 1 and that was last week so i don't think croc tears or storm in a tea cup are quite appropriate phrases. It just sounds like some people may be a little sour at their own position in lfe so they feel the need to drag others down