NFL at Wembley live on BBC2/3 this weekend - Broadcasting

Cent · 21-10-2008, 23:16

The NFL game at Wembley this Sunday will be shown live on BBC2 and BBC3.

The first 2 and a half hours will be shown on BBC2, switching to BBC3 for the final hour.

How did the BBC manage this? Under the Superbowl contract they shared live coverage of that with Sky Sports and Sky Sports got exclusive live coverage of any NFL games played in the UK, with the BBC getting highlights, as happened for last year's game.

How has the BBC managed to get full live coverage alongside Sky Sports when the current contract does not expire until February?

Btw - I'm over the moon about it! Just surprised.

Ambassador · 21-10-2008, 23:22

Maybe Sky weren't bothered about the NFL that much

It's a heavy minority sport in these fair isles

Temp1 · 21-10-2008, 23:28

How is it that the BBC can afford to show crap American sports that hardly any British people are interested in, yet can hardly afford to show any Football, and no Cricket (our national sport) at all? It's a disgrace!

Cent · 21-10-2008, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Barclays Bank

How is it that the BBC can afford to show crap American sports that hardly any British people are interested in, yet can hardly afford to show any Football, and no Cricket (our national sport) at all? It's a disgrace!

Didn't you just answer your own question by the way you described it? "crap"

One is dirt cheap (especially as NFL is desperate to move worldwide in merchandising, etc), the others are extremely expensive.

And there is a lot of interest for NFL in the UK - they got 500,000 ticket requests in the 3 days after announcing the game. And thats only the hardcore base willing to travel to London and pay big money to see the game in person.

ElMarko · 21-10-2008, 23:32

Oh here we go with the usual backlash.

PS: Of course Sky are bothered about it. They give away a large section of Sunday night to it.

Lets see if we can get through this thread without any more crap and just concentrate on the actual question in the topic, aye?

Charnham · 21-10-2008, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Barclays Bank

How is it that the BBC can afford to show crap American sports that hardly any British people are interested in, yet can hardly afford to show any Football, and no Cricket (our national sport) at all? It's a disgrace!

normally I would agree, however it is live from London, so I dont mind.

That said if the BBC was to air NFL games regularly I would have something to say about, as for the superbowl well ITV, five & sky have all shown it in the past, I see no reason for the BBC to get involved in that, five will air it free to air if no one else wants to.

Ambassador · 21-10-2008, 23:41

Oh and for the OP...the game is live on both Sky Sports and BBC2/3 (which seems a slightly horrific waste of schedules considering events like this are rarely simulcast...strange)

The usual whines from the padded boys of the NFL about travel times and acclimatising

Cent · 21-10-2008, 23:44

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Originally Posted by Ambassador

Oh and for the OP...the game is live on both Sky Sports and BBC2/3 (which seems a slightly horrific waste of schedules considering events like this are rarely simulcast...strange)

The usual whines from the padded boys of the NFL about travel times and acclimatising

Yeh I know its on Sky too, maybe I should have made that clearer, just wondered how the BBC managed to get a previously announced contract changed.

richard1960 · 21-10-2008, 23:50

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Originally Posted by Barclays Bank

How is it that the BBC can afford to show crap American sports that hardly any British people are interested in, yet can hardly afford to show any Football, and no Cricket (our national sport) at all? It's a disgrace!

Agreed 110% per cent,the bbc can afford to show hardly any football,and absolutely no cricket (our national summer game) But can apparently show a us sport live disgusting is my view(as a bbc licsence payer)

Charnham · 21-10-2008, 23:52

I would guess the NFL are only to happy for it to be free to air, they cant grow the sport if its stuck on Sky Sports 8.

I cant speak for contracts as I dont have them in front of me, but the NFL already airs on five as well as Sky, and with events like this its very possible there is a loop hole to allow for this kind of thing, its actually good for Sky in the long run as it could lead to people watching more NFL games on Sky (same for five)

as to cost, NFL rights are likely to be ALOT cheaper than premiership rights in the UK and vice versa in the US, this one game would be sold as one game.

darkjedimaster · 22-10-2008, 00:02

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Originally Posted by Barclays Bank

How is it that the BBC can afford to show crap American sports that hardly any British people are interested in, yet can hardly afford to show any Football, and no Cricket (our national sport) at all? It's a disgrace!

The NFL is one of the greatest sports around today, it is fast & furious, and the players don't roll about on the ground crying, when they get a splinter.

Yes Cricket is our national sport but is as boring & irritating as the queen doing her Christmas speech, or watching the Williams Brothers in Wimbledon each year.

And to top it all off....... The NFL has Cheerleaders

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All I can say is well done BBC, for giving us some decent programming, compared to the usual sh!t we have to put up with.

stehal77 · 22-10-2008, 00:09

williams brothers?

darkjedimaster · 22-10-2008, 00:12

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Originally Posted by stehal77

williams brothers?

Sorry couldn't resist quoting what Jimmy Carr said on out of 10 cats, when Wimbledon was on. It doesn't take a genius to work it out

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Mark. · 22-10-2008, 07:14

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Originally Posted by Barclays Bank

How is it that the BBC can afford to show crap American sports that hardly any British people are interested in, yet can hardly afford to show any Football, and no Cricket (our national sport) at all? It's a disgrace!

Cricket is not "our" national sport when talking in terms of the BBC.

willowfan · 22-10-2008, 09:50

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Originally Posted by richard1960

Agreed 110% per cent,the bbc can afford to show hardly any football,and absolutely no cricket (our national summer game) But can apparently show a us sport live disgusting is my view(as a bbc licsence payer)

I, as a BBC Licence payer, am absolutely over the moon that the BBC are showing the Wembley game live.

jeffersbnl · 22-10-2008, 10:18

The football the BBC no longer has (FA Cup and England games) costs at least £2-3m a game.

Sky Sports pay £6m a season for well over 100 NFL games. The BBC's original contract was for two Superbowls live and highlights of any game played at Wembley- so they'll have either been given the live rights for very little extra or the NFL may have given them for free to give the game even greater exposure. I'd doubt the original deal cost very much at all.

Isn't the BBC supposed to promote minority sports

I'm going on Sunday, can't wait!

Psychosis · 22-10-2008, 10:21

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Originally Posted by Cent

And there is a lot of interest for NFL in the UK - they got 500,000 ticket requests in the 3 days after announcing the game. And thats only the hardcore base willing to travel to London and pay big money to see the game in person.

I feel slightly guilty now. I got tickets and I'm going even though I've never seen a game of NFL in my life

Ah, it's a good first, I suppose.

Alex2606 · 22-10-2008, 10:57

Personally speaking, it sums up the BBC's commitment to sports, showing two hours on BBC2 and then switching to BBC3 for the final hour. What happens if it's a tight game that goes down to the end? I'd much rather watch it on Sky where its on one channel and in HD.

How can they ever have a future commitment to cricket when they can't televise a three hour match in its entireity.

Li4m · 22-10-2008, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Alex2606

Personally speaking, it sums up the BBC's commitment to sports, showing two hours on BBC2 and then switching to BBC3 for the final hour. What happens if it's a tight game that goes down to the end? I'd much rather watch it on Sky where its on one channel and in HD.

How can they ever have a future commitment to cricket when they can't televise a three hour match in its entireity.

It means there'll be something worth watching on BBC Three at least!

Mark. · 22-10-2008, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Li4m

It means there'll be something worth watching on BBC Three at least!

Well a few weeks ago they did show the Arsen...

I see what you mean.

22-10-2008, 11:11

The BBC is not supposed to provide minority sports, it's supposed to provide a public service. Whatever that is.

Minority sports might be part of that remit to provide a public service, it depends.

Cent · 22-10-2008, 14:45

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Originally Posted by Alex2606

Personally speaking, it sums up the BBC's commitment to sports, showing two hours on BBC2 and then switching to BBC3 for the final hour. What happens if it's a tight game that goes down to the end? I'd much rather watch it on Sky where its on one channel and in HD.

How can they ever have a future commitment to cricket when they can't televise a three hour match in its entireity.

I think they might have wanted it all on BBC3, but BBC3 only starting at 7pm makes it difficult.

Still strange to switch for the final hour of coverage, especially when BBC3 doesnt have anything particularly important to show at 7pm.

baboons · 22-10-2008, 15:04

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Originally Posted by Cent

How did the BBC manage this? Under the Superbowl contract they shared live coverage of that with Sky Sports and Sky Sports got exclusive live coverage of any NFL games played in the UK, with the BBC getting highlights, as happened for last year's game.
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This was announced not long after the game itself was confirmed.

Sky have exclusive pay tv rights to Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. Sky share coverage with Five on Sunday and Monday Nights. Sky have the play-offs, but share the Superbowl with the BBC. The BBC contract includes live or highlights coverage of any UK games (of which there's likely to be two next year).

I guess Sky benefit from the additional publicity the sport gets being available FTA on the BBC twice a year. BTW - I thought the BBC Superbowl coverage was far superior to Sky's.

Andy Rimmer · 22-10-2008, 15:15

I see the BBC are using the CBS Commentary team. Wonder if they'll have widescreen coverage. I know Sky will be in Widescreen as they are doing it in HD but NFL coverage is normally 4:3.

Temp1 · 22-10-2008, 15:18

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Originally Posted by Mark.

Cricket is not "our" national sport when talking in terms of the BBC.

What is Scotland's national summer sport?

21-10-2008, 23:16	#1
Cent Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Gender: Male Location: Scotland Posts: 20,814	NFL at Wembley live on BBC2/3 this weekend The NFL game at Wembley this Sunday will be shown live on BBC2 and BBC3. The first 2 and a half hours will be shown on BBC2, switching to BBC3 for the final hour. How did the BBC manage this? Under the Superbowl contract they shared live coverage of that with Sky Sports and Sky Sports got exclusive live coverage of any NFL games played in the UK, with the BBC getting highlights, as happened for last year's game. How has the BBC managed to get full live coverage alongside Sky Sports when the current contract does not expire until February? Btw - I'm over the moon about it! Just surprised.

21-10-2008, 23:22	#2
Ambassador Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wooler, Northumb'land Republic Services: Sky +, Freeview, SkyTalk, SkyBroadband, BT HomeHub Posts: 10,181	Maybe Sky weren't bothered about the NFL that much It's a heavy minority sport in these fair isles

21-10-2008, 23:28	#3
Temp1 Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,291	How is it that the BBC can afford to show crap American sports that hardly any British people are interested in, yet can hardly afford to show any Football, and no Cricket (our national sport) at all? It's a disgrace!

21-10-2008, 23:32	#5
ElMarko Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Blackpool Services: Virgin TV/Net/Phone, OSX/Linux/XP (For games) Posts: 3,815	Oh here we go with the usual backlash. PS: Of course Sky are bothered about it. They give away a large section of Sunday night to it. Lets see if we can get through this thread without any more crap and just concentrate on the actual question in the topic, aye?

21-10-2008, 23:41	#7
Ambassador Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wooler, Northumb'land Republic Services: Sky +, Freeview, SkyTalk, SkyBroadband, BT HomeHub Posts: 10,181	Oh and for the OP...the game is live on both Sky Sports and BBC2/3 (which seems a slightly horrific waste of schedules considering events like this are rarely simulcast...strange) The usual whines from the padded boys of the NFL about travel times and acclimatising

21-10-2008, 23:52	#10
Charnham Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: nr Peterborough, England Services: regenerating into wamdue Posts: 17,758	I would guess the NFL are only to happy for it to be free to air, they cant grow the sport if its stuck on Sky Sports 8. I cant speak for contracts as I dont have them in front of me, but the NFL already airs on five as well as Sky, and with events like this its very possible there is a loop hole to allow for this kind of thing, its actually good for Sky in the long run as it could lead to people watching more NFL games on Sky (same for five) as to cost, NFL rights are likely to be ALOT cheaper than premiership rights in the UK and vice versa in the US, this one game would be sold as one game.

22-10-2008, 00:09	#12
stehal77 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Greater Manchester Services: Sky+HD Posts: 223	williams brothers?

22-10-2008, 10:18	#16
jeffersbnl Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Hertfordshire Services: Sky + v2 (120gb), Freeview, Sky BB (Connect) Posts: 2,483	The football the BBC no longer has (FA Cup and England games) costs at least £2-3m a game. Sky Sports pay £6m a season for well over 100 NFL games. The BBC's original contract was for two Superbowls live and highlights of any game played at Wembley- so they'll have either been given the live rights for very little extra or the NFL may have given them for free to give the game even greater exposure. I'd doubt the original deal cost very much at all. Isn't the BBC supposed to promote minority sports I'm going on Sunday, can't wait!

22-10-2008, 10:57	#18
Alex2606 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 552	Personally speaking, it sums up the BBC's commitment to sports, showing two hours on BBC2 and then switching to BBC3 for the final hour. What happens if it's a tight game that goes down to the end? I'd much rather watch it on Sky where its on one channel and in HD. How can they ever have a future commitment to cricket when they can't televise a three hour match in its entireity.

22-10-2008, 11:11	#21
KaptainKitten Posts: n/a	The BBC is not supposed to provide minority sports, it's supposed to provide a public service. Whatever that is. Minority sports might be part of that remit to provide a public service, it depends.

22-10-2008, 15:15	#24
Andy Rimmer Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North West England Services: Sky+ HD & Sky Broadband Posts: 1,151	I see the BBC are using the CBS Commentary team. Wonder if they'll have widescreen coverage. I know Sky will be in Widescreen as they are doing it in HD but NFL coverage is normally 4:3.