Collate the New HD channel rumours here! - V+ HD

maestromarv · 12-12-2008, 08:50

All this banter about great upscaling SD....... not good enough!

Not one of us, even the absolute Virgin FanBoys, isn't busting to get confirmation of the rumoured HD channel allocation after the recent EPG changes and off-the-cuff comments from maverick Virgin customer care advisors.

I'm starting a new thread just for people to say what they've heard and link to where they've heard it. This is one I've seen.....

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...08277971341808

dmc5007 · 12-12-2008, 09:34

I think that the discussion of the paucity of HD content is perfectly valid and how, if ever, Virgin should implement it.

I just think that the rumours are just unhelpful, no one knew that the Sky Channels were coming back until Sky Media started pitching it to advertisers and once it was confirmed there was a big marketing campaign to go with. Even media boy had stopped guessing in his 'coming soon' thread.

I see no reason why HD wouldn't be the same, until there is an announcement I would recommend to anyone interested in linear HD to go to Sky.

That said I hope VM get round to adding HD, competition in any market place is good news for the consumer.

maestromarv · 12-12-2008, 10:34

It's true. I feel tied in to VM because of good broadband but realise Sky is THE HD provider in the UK.

Are we being made mugs for our loyalty? Or getting what we pay for? (£60 a month for XL everything, free HD?)

millsman · 12-12-2008, 10:43

Tend to agree, but with the EPG shuffle there is obviously something in the pipe line but what.

Surely there is not enough time to aunch HD before xmas

Anyway my contracts up in January, Ill bide my time until then

Nialli · 12-12-2008, 10:58

As far as I can tell there are three rumours:

1) "15 Sky HD channels by the end of the year"
This has been fuelled by Neil Berkett's comments in his presentation to investors, but he's referring to what he hopes is a favourable (to Virgin) outcome from the OFCOM investigation into Pay TV in the UK and by the thawing of the VM/Sky relationship.
I'll be stunned if this comes about - why would Sky do it?
2) "C4 HD, ITV HD, Sky1 HD and FX HD early in the New Year"
Not sure where this originates from but it seems more likely than the one above. Virgin issued a press release a year ago saying they had the rights to C4 HD as a linear channel already, so that may well be on its way - not so sure about the others.
3) "Ten HD channels in the new year"
This and similar statements from Virgin have often been reported on the forums and blogs over the last few months, often as a response from Virgin to demands for more HD. The lack of any details and no official announcement from Virgin indicates that there's little to support this.

goomba · 12-12-2008, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmc5007

Even media boy had stopped guessing in his 'coming soon' thread.

He now has his own blog to guess in!

And he is reading this thread by the looks of it! Hello Media Boy!

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34695062-post886.html

knebworth85 · 12-12-2008, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by maestromarv

It's true. I feel tied in to VM because of good broadband but realise Sky is THE HD provider in the UK.

Are we being made mugs for our loyalty? Or getting what we pay for? (£60 a month for XL everything, free HD?)

Do you feel as if you are getting what you pay for?

At the moment XL everything is £56,according to the website,so i guess you could be asking will hd be available for £4 extra as you quote XL everything and free hd for £60.

Ths sky basics issue was not known about generally until just before it happened,although old boy,a poster on here was long predicting its return! The same will be true i guess of any hd additions.

I believe more hd will come, its interesting to note though and this is just a general point,in the satellite forums sky customers are not asking,when are we going to get free setanta with our full package tv subs like vm do!.

Virgin media customers do seem harder to satisfy,although probably that is not a bad thing.

maestromarv · 12-12-2008, 11:18

No, the £4 extra wasn't relevant. Just off-the-cuff. My bill is 61 with an extra STB

Feed The Reaper · 12-12-2008, 11:42

A lot of VM staff got told a month or two ago that CH4 HD would be first to arrive, followed swiftly after by ITV HD and then around a half dozen or so other channels soon after that. All of which will commence in early 2009.

But as I dont work for VM and wasnt there when Neil Burkett told most of the staff this I cant tell you exactly what was said but I am sure a lot of others on here that do work there will fill in the true story.

cupcakes aka dd · 12-12-2008, 14:55

Post from Braysoj1 on Cable forum

i have just been looking on wikapedia and it says these channels are testing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_on_Virgin_TV

Channels that are testing
EPG No. ↓ Channel Name ↓ Notes ↓ Owner/parent company

801 Daystar TV No video, no EPG Daystar Television Network
159 Sci-Fi +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
161 Paramunot Comdey 2 +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
115 ITV2 +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
160 ITV3 +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
162 ITV4 +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
201 Discovrey Channel HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
163 BEN Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
165 Channel 4 HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
164 ITV HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
198 BBC ALBA Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
199 OBE Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
200 Nuts TV Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
243 Discovrey Knowlegde +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
197 S4C HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
244 Discovrey Travel & Living +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
245 Infoiman TV Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
196 Vrigin 1 HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
195 Zone Thilere Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
194 Zone Reailty +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
193 Zone Rotciomna Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
192 Zone Horror +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
758 TV Travel Shop Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
759 Sreenshop2 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
860 ITV1 North East Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
861 ITV1 North West Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
862 ITV1 Lodon Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
863 ITV1 West Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
864 ITV1 North Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
865 ITV1 Angila Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
367 MTV One +2 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media
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maestromarv · 12-12-2008, 15:01

Anyone got any idea how long testing goes on before public implementation?

Also, is this link wrong (it doesn't work) or should we question the info altogether?

grassmarket · 12-12-2008, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd

197 S4C HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media

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That would be just like it, eh? Yes, you can have a brand new HD channel, but it's all in Welsh.

brian3888 · 12-12-2008, 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by maestromarv

Anyone got any idea how long testing goes on before public implementation?

Also, is this link wrong (it doesn't work) or should we question the info altogether?

try this link

regards

Brian

dmc5007 · 12-12-2008, 15:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by grassmarket

That would be just like it, eh? Yes, you can have a brand new HD channel, but it's all in Welsh.

I'm quite stoked about the possibility of Pobol y Cwm in HD.

JasonWatkins · 12-12-2008, 15:24

so basically four hd channels (not counting s4c as i can't speak welsh!!) ?

if it turns out to be true then it still wouldn't be enough to stop me going back to sky.

*edit

although actually reading the thread tells me it's a little more than 4

if it's true that we'll get setanta sports HD for free then that would be great.

millsman · 12-12-2008, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonWatkins

so basically four hd channels (not counting s4c as i can't speak welsh!!) ?

if it turns out to be true then it still wouldn't be enough to stop me going back to sky.

But if it is true its a step in the right direction, you didn't really think that Sky would just roll over and give Virgin there premium HD channels

maestromarv · 12-12-2008, 15:28

Where is the info from? Can you check on Wiki?

There is no reference marker for the table of test info. If it was an insider, would they have released it to Wiki rather than one of these Tech web sites?

knebworth85 · 12-12-2008, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonWatkins

so basically four hd channels (not counting s4c as i can't speak welsh!!) ?

if it turns out to be true then it still wouldn't be enough to stop me going back to sky.

Well yes you would be correct to go back to sky,if it was hd you wanted why ever did you leave them in the first place.?

JasonWatkins · 12-12-2008, 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by knebworth85

why ever did you leave them in the first place.?

i didn't have a HD telly last year when I left Sky, and it didn't seem i was going to get one for some time.

now i do have one

digiwigi · 12-12-2008, 16:23

There have been rumours of new HD channels for so long, its the televisual equivalent of the boy who cries wolf. Nobody believes it anymore.

JasonWatkins · 12-12-2008, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by digiwigi

There have been rumours of new HD channels for so long, its the televisual equivalent of the boy who cries wolf. Nobody believes it anymore.

this is why i'm very sceptical really - i've got time to see what happens as my virgin deal doesn't expire until late april, but to be honest i wouldn't be greatly surprised if that time comes and the HD channels are nowhere to be seen.

JasonWatkins · 12-12-2008, 17:09

well virgin themselves have now announced it

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...-channels.html

however ..

Quote:

Berkett said that a "plan to add linear high definition channels" had been developed but did not elaborate on timescales or precise channels.

this made me laugh though ..

Quote:

Virgin does, however, offer a variety of high definition content on demand

Indeed it does, when it can be bothered to ADD SOMETHING NEW!

Timotei75 · 12-12-2008, 17:48

Meh, a vague statement if ever there was one.

casper_uk · 12-12-2008, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by maestromarv

All this banter about great upscaling SD....... not good enough!

Not one of us, even the absolute Virgin FanBoys, isn't busting to get confirmation of the rumoured HD channel allocation after the recent EPG changes and off-the-cuff comments from maverick Virgin customer care advisors.

I'm starting a new thread just for people to say what they've heard and link to where they've heard it. This is one I've seen.....

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...08277971341808

Speak for yourself lol i couldn't really give a tosh about HD channels as they are not as good as everyone makes out. Yes the picture is slightly better but it's not like it's a massive leap forward ie from black and white to colour!

Sirius · 12-12-2008, 18:55

You can't actually tell people that upscaled SD isn't good enough for them. The fact is even Sky have less than 10% of their user base on the HD product - meaning 90% of their base are satisfied with hardware that doesn't even upscale SD or offer an HDMI interface!

12-12-2008, 08:50	#1
maestromarv Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Barnsley Services: Virgin XL triple package, V+, Samsung VBox 2nd room, Sony 40" 1080p, PS3 Posts: 88	Collate the New HD channel rumours here! All this banter about great upscaling SD....... not good enough! Not one of us, even the absolute Virgin FanBoys, isn't busting to get confirmation of the rumoured HD channel allocation after the recent EPG changes and off-the-cuff comments from maverick Virgin customer care advisors. I'm starting a new thread just for people to say what they've heard and link to where they've heard it. This is one I've seen..... https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...08277971341808

12-12-2008, 14:55	#10
cupcakes aka dd Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 13	Latest EPG Post from Braysoj1 on Cable forum i have just been looking on wikapedia and it says these channels are testing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_on_Virgin_TV Channels that are testing EPG No. ↓ Channel Name ↓ Notes ↓ Owner/parent company 801 Daystar TV No video, no EPG Daystar Television Network 159 Sci-Fi +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 161 Paramunot Comdey 2 +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 115 ITV2 +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 160 ITV3 +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 162 ITV4 +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 201 Discovrey Channel HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 163 BEN Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 165 Channel 4 HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 164 ITV HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 198 BBC ALBA Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 199 OBE Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 200 Nuts TV Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 243 Discovrey Knowlegde +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 197 S4C HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 244 Discovrey Travel & Living +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 245 Infoiman TV Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 196 Vrigin 1 HD Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 195 Zone Thilere Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 194 Zone Reailty +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 193 Zone Rotciomna Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 192 Zone Horror +1 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 758 TV Travel Shop Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 759 Sreenshop2 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 860 ITV1 North East Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 861 ITV1 North West Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 862 ITV1 Lodon Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 863 ITV1 West Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 864 ITV1 North Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 865 ITV1 Angila Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media 367 MTV One +2 Tests of 3 new Transport Streams Virgin Media __________________

12-12-2008, 09:34	#2
dmc5007 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Midlands Services: Virgin VIP, XBOX 360 Posts: 536	I think that the discussion of the paucity of HD content is perfectly valid and how, if ever, Virgin should implement it. I just think that the rumours are just unhelpful, no one knew that the Sky Channels were coming back until Sky Media started pitching it to advertisers and once it was confirmed there was a big marketing campaign to go with. Even media boy had stopped guessing in his 'coming soon' thread. I see no reason why HD wouldn't be the same, until there is an announcement I would recommend to anyone interested in linear HD to go to Sky. That said I hope VM get round to adding HD, competition in any market place is good news for the consumer.

12-12-2008, 10:34	#3
maestromarv Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Barnsley Services: Virgin XL triple package, V+, Samsung VBox 2nd room, Sony 40" 1080p, PS3 Posts: 88	It's true. I feel tied in to VM because of good broadband but realise Sky is THE HD provider in the UK. Are we being made mugs for our loyalty? Or getting what we pay for? (£60 a month for XL everything, free HD?)

12-12-2008, 10:43	#4
millsman Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 89	Tend to agree, but with the EPG shuffle there is obviously something in the pipe line but what. Surely there is not enough time to aunch HD before xmas Anyway my contracts up in January, Ill bide my time until then

12-12-2008, 10:58	#5
Nialli Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Greenwich, London Services: Virgin Media VIP, Freeview Posts: 938 Blog Entries: 39	As far as I can tell there are three rumours: 1) "15 Sky HD channels by the end of the year" This has been fuelled by Neil Berkett's comments in his presentation to investors, but he's referring to what he hopes is a favourable (to Virgin) outcome from the OFCOM investigation into Pay TV in the UK and by the thawing of the VM/Sky relationship. I'll be stunned if this comes about - why would Sky do it? 2) "C4 HD, ITV HD, Sky1 HD and FX HD early in the New Year" Not sure where this originates from but it seems more likely than the one above. Virgin issued a press release a year ago saying they had the rights to C4 HD as a linear channel already, so that may well be on its way - not so sure about the others. 3) "Ten HD channels in the new year" This and similar statements from Virgin have often been reported on the forums and blogs over the last few months, often as a response from Virgin to demands for more HD. The lack of any details and no official announcement from Virgin indicates that there's little to support this.

12-12-2008, 11:18	#8
maestromarv Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Barnsley Services: Virgin XL triple package, V+, Samsung VBox 2nd room, Sony 40" 1080p, PS3 Posts: 88	No, the £4 extra wasn't relevant. Just off-the-cuff. My bill is 61 with an extra STB

12-12-2008, 11:42	#9
Feed The Reaper Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Services: VM VIP, Xbox360 Posts: 6,478 Blog Entries: 4	A lot of VM staff got told a month or two ago that CH4 HD would be first to arrive, followed swiftly after by ITV HD and then around a half dozen or so other channels soon after that. All of which will commence in early 2009. But as I dont work for VM and wasnt there when Neil Burkett told most of the staff this I cant tell you exactly what was said but I am sure a lot of others on here that do work there will fill in the true story.

12-12-2008, 15:01	#11
maestromarv Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Barnsley Services: Virgin XL triple package, V+, Samsung VBox 2nd room, Sony 40" 1080p, PS3 Posts: 88	Anyone got any idea how long testing goes on before public implementation? Also, is this link wrong (it doesn't work) or should we question the info altogether?

12-12-2008, 15:24	#15
JasonWatkins Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Services: Sky HD, Sky Talk & Sky Broadband Posts: 10,609	so basically four hd channels (not counting s4c as i can't speak welsh!!) ? if it turns out to be true then it still wouldn't be enough to stop me going back to sky. edit although actually reading* the thread tells me it's a little more than 4 if it's true that we'll get setanta sports HD for free then that would be great.

12-12-2008, 15:28	#17
maestromarv Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Barnsley Services: Virgin XL triple package, V+, Samsung VBox 2nd room, Sony 40" 1080p, PS3 Posts: 88	Where is the info from? Can you check on Wiki? There is no reference marker for the table of test info. If it was an insider, would they have released it to Wiki rather than one of these Tech web sites?

12-12-2008, 16:23	#20
digiwigi Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: London Services: Sky+ HD, Top Up TV & Virgin XL BB Posts: 870	There have been rumours of new HD channels for so long, its the televisual equivalent of the boy who cries wolf. Nobody believes it anymore.

12-12-2008, 17:48	#23
Timotei75 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Stoke Services: Virgin VIP Posts: 123	Meh, a vague statement if ever there was one.

12-12-2008, 18:55	#25
Sirius Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Scotland Services: Virgin Phone XL, BB XL, Mobile, Sky HD, motorised sat Posts: 3,185 Blog Entries: 1	You can't actually tell people that upscaled SD isn't good enough for them. The fact is even Sky have less than 10% of their user base on the HD product - meaning 90% of their base are satisfied with hardware that doesn't even upscale SD or offer an HDMI interface!