Channel 4 making a huge mistake - Broadcasting

SimpsonsFan053 · 30-12-2008, 22:06

They are wanting to air a message from the Iranian President at Christmas 09. Airing a message from scum like that on a day of peace in a country like the UK will cost Channel 4.

solarflare · 30-12-2008, 22:10

Would this be a bad time to point out that they already aired a message from the Iranian leader this Christmas?

kegsie · 30-12-2008, 22:11

They should just save cash and repeat the one they have already done for Christmas 08

callum9999 · 30-12-2008, 22:11

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Originally Posted by SimpsonsFan053

They are wanting to air a message from the Iranian President at Christmas 09. Airing a message from scum like that on a day of peace in a country like the UK will cost Channel 4.

Do you not mean 2008, as in a few days ago?

If you don't have the mental capacity to watch his speech then don't do it (even though its a bit late now!).

30-12-2008, 22:43

Yet more repeats! It's always that "DinnerJacket" guy, was he in "Friends"?

Why can't Channel Four make new Christmas messages featuring characters from the Star Wars universe perhaps?

"I find your lack of faith disturbing..."

JasonWatkins · 30-12-2008, 22:56

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Originally Posted by KaptainKitten

Why can't Channel Four make new Christmas messages featuring characters from the Star Wars universe perhaps?

"I find your lack of faith disturbing..."

i'd watch that

germanycalling · 30-12-2008, 23:42

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Originally Posted by JasonWatkins

i'd watch that

Which begs the question would you pay to watch that ?

Lengster · 31-12-2008, 00:00

The fact that we allow him to broadcast here is proof of how much better we are than him. Gordon Brown wouldn't be allowed to make a broadcast in Iran during Eid.

I'm completely against the Iranian government's methods (dubious nuclear activity, excuting homosexuals etc.), but I'm also against Daily-Mail-esque hype about a nation about which most people in this country know little. The day we stop allowing broadcasts like this is the day we stop being a democracy.

Furthermore, the President showed respect and maturity in the actual message - if we're to ban unsavoury political broadcasts, let's start with the BNP, who do nothing to hide their evil opinions in party-political messages.

flashgordon1952 · 31-12-2008, 00:05

How about a message from our friends the terrorists who murdered over 3000 people at 9 11. This was gross in the extreme in my view. By the way how much did CH4 get paid for this christmas message from these terrorists??

Toxteth O'Grady · 31-12-2008, 00:09

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Originally Posted by flashgordon1952

How about a message from our friends the terrorists who murdered over 3000 people at 9 11.

There could be a logistical problem with that!

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This was gross in the extreme in my view. By the way how much did CH4 get paid for this christmas message from these terrorists??

Please explain, how the (democratically elected) president of Iran is a terrorist?

Toxteth O'Grady · 31-12-2008, 00:12

I think that before this thread goes any further, everyone should read what he said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...istmas-message

Personally I can see very little sign of anything offensive, the basic message is no different to what the Queen peddles out every year.... except it contains more religion (and more about the Birthday boy!)

Sven945 · 31-12-2008, 07:35

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Originally Posted by flashgordon1952

How about a message from our friends the terrorists who murdered over 3000 people at 9 11. This was gross in the extreme in my view.

That's a bit of a leap isn't it?

garyessex · 31-12-2008, 07:52

Oh dear let's ban EVERYTHING we don't like, ofcourse, its a silly idea to try and understand things we dont know

prking · 31-12-2008, 07:52

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Originally Posted by KaptainKitten

Yet more repeats! It's always that "DinnerJacket" guy, was he in "Friends"?

Why can't Channel Four make new Christmas messages featuring characters from the Star Wars universe perhaps?

"I find your lack of faith disturbing..."

Something, Something, Darkside
Something, Something, Complete!

tammytastic · 31-12-2008, 07:57

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Originally Posted by SimpsonsFan053

They are wanting to air a message from the Iranian President at Christmas 09. Airing a message from scum like that on a day of peace in a country like the UK will cost Channel 4.

Come on then OP - how has it cost Channel 4 ? Oh yes...not at all !

G926 · 31-12-2008, 08:17

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Originally Posted by Lengster

The fact that we allow him to broadcast here is proof of how much better we are than him. Gordon Brown wouldn't be allowed to make a broadcast in Iran during Eid.

I'm completely against the Iranian government's methods (dubious nuclear activity, excuting homosexuals etc.), but I'm also against Daily-Mail-esque hype about a nation about which most people in this country know little. The day we stop allowing broadcasts like this is the day we stop being a democracy.

Furthermore, the President showed respect and maturity in the actual message - if we're to ban unsavoury political broadcasts, let's start with the BNP, who do nothing to hide their evil opinions in party-political messages.

I am in complete agreement with you on this.

I think the majority of people who complained about this in all forms of media did so on the fact he was doing the speech, not on the content.

I watched the speech and was very surprised at it's content. He spoke very much along religeous themes and mentioned Jesus many times.

tysonstorm · 31-12-2008, 08:45

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Originally Posted by SimpsonsFan053

They are wanting to air a message from the Iranian President at Christmas 09. Airing a message from scum like that on a day of peace in a country like the UK will cost Channel 4.

Yeah we should go one further and have Tony Blair give a Christmas speach, I mean a War Criminal is a step up from Terrorist right?

Rodney · 31-12-2008, 11:12

I think they should have had George W giving the Christmas Day Address - it would have satisfied all sides .... terrorist, presidential, criminal .... but mainly just very, very funny! An opportunity missed if you ask me.

Toxteth O'Grady · 31-12-2008, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Rodney

I think they should have had George W giving the Christmas Day Address - it would have satisfied all sides .... terrorist, presidential, criminal .... but mainly just very, very funny! An opportunity missed if you ask me.

A good idea, maybe he will next year when he's less busy!

{ph[oe]nix} · 31-12-2008, 14:14

Reading the speech just then, I thought it was rather good. I applaud Channel 4 and their alternative message. I don't always like the person they chose, but I think it's important to have a slightly different message to the standard fare.

solarflare · 31-12-2008, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Lengster

I'm completely against the Iranian government's methods (dubious nuclear activity, excuting homosexuals etc.)...the day we stop allowing broadcasts like this is the day we stop being a democracy.

...

if we're to ban unsavoury political broadcasts, let's start with the BNP, who do nothing to hide their evil opinions in party-political messages.

I find it pretty difficult to reconcile these two statements, which appear to contradict each other.

Lengster · 01-01-2009, 02:03

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Originally Posted by solarflare

I find it pretty difficult to reconcile these two statements, which appear to contradict each other.

My point is, I'm against banning any kind of political opinion, but if we ARE discussing banning them, let's at least focus on openly agressive/racist ones.

koantemplation · 01-01-2009, 02:10

I still think it was a consession for the release of the captured navy crew last year.

Ambassador · 01-01-2009, 14:10

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Originally Posted by koantemplation

I still think it was a consession for the release of the captured navy crew last year.

Yes, but they still haven't given our brave boy his I-Pod back!

solarflare · 01-01-2009, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Lengster

My point is, I'm against banning any kind of political opinion, but if we ARE discussing banning them, let's at least focus on openly agressive/racist ones.

Ah ok, fair enough - I see what you mean now

30-12-2008, 22:06	#1
SimpsonsFan053 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 76	Channel 4 making a huge mistake They are wanting to air a message from the Iranian President at Christmas 09. Airing a message from scum like that on a day of peace in a country like the UK will cost Channel 4.

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flashgordon1952 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: brentwood essex Services: sky, premier germany BT Posts: 920	next years christmas message How about a message from our friends the terrorists who murdered over 3000 people at 9 11. This was gross in the extreme in my view. By the way how much did CH4 get paid for this christmas message from these terrorists?? Last edited by flashgordon1952 : 31-12-2008 at 00:06. Reason: gross instead of groos

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solarflare Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,290	Would this be a bad time to point out that they already aired a message from the Iranian leader this Christmas?

30-12-2008, 22:11	#3
kegsie Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Isle of Man Posts: 1,436	They should just save cash and repeat the one they have already done for Christmas 08

30-12-2008, 22:43	#5
KaptainKitten Posts: n/a	Yet more repeats! It's always that "DinnerJacket" guy, was he in "Friends"? Why can't Channel Four make new Christmas messages featuring characters from the Star Wars universe perhaps? "I find your lack of faith disturbing..."

31-12-2008, 00:00	#8
Lengster Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 656	The fact that we allow him to broadcast here is proof of how much better we are than him. Gordon Brown wouldn't be allowed to make a broadcast in Iran during Eid. I'm completely against the Iranian government's methods (dubious nuclear activity, excuting homosexuals etc.), but I'm also against Daily-Mail-esque hype about a nation about which most people in this country know little. The day we stop allowing broadcasts like this is the day we stop being a democracy. Furthermore, the President showed respect and maturity in the actual message - if we're to ban unsavoury political broadcasts, let's start with the BNP, who do nothing to hide their evil opinions in party-political messages.

31-12-2008, 00:12	#11
Toxteth O'Grady Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7,035	I think that before this thread goes any further, everyone should read what he said: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...istmas-message Personally I can see very little sign of anything offensive, the basic message is no different to what the Queen peddles out every year.... except it contains more religion (and more about the Birthday boy!)

31-12-2008, 07:52	#13
garyessex Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,224	Oh dear let's ban EVERYTHING we don't like, ofcourse, its a silly idea to try and understand things we dont know

31-12-2008, 11:12	#18
Rodney Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Craigavon, Northern Ireland Services: Sky Digital and ADSL24 Posts: 1,906	I think they should have had George W giving the Christmas Day Address - it would have satisfied all sides .... terrorist, presidential, criminal .... but mainly just very, very funny! An opportunity missed if you ask me.

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{ph[oe]nix} Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London, UK Services: Freeview/FreesatHD, Toshiba HD-EP35, Sony BDP-S500, Be* Unlimited 16mb Posts: 2,819	Reading the speech just then, I thought it was rather good. I applaud Channel 4 and their alternative message. I don't always like the person they chose, but I think it's important to have a slightly different message to the standard fare.

01-01-2009, 02:10	#23
koantemplation Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Services: ☣ Posts: 43,760	I still think it was a consession for the release of the captured navy crew last year.