[D.M.N.]

For anyone wishing to go back in time:
*2008 thread
2002 to 2007 thread

2009 - Here We Come!
Formula One in 2008 saw a year of high's and low's with controversy and on off the track covering key figures within the sport. In the end, when the chequered flag came down for the final race in Brazil, Lewis Hamilton won the 2008 Formula One Drivers' Championship, beating rival Felipe Massa by a single point.

2009 will be a tough year for all the drivers, with the introduction of the "KERS" system. The cars' find themselves getting a "makeover" - they may not look asthetically pleasing, but promise to bring overtaking back to Formula One.

Even though we've only just turned into 2009, discussion within this forum and many other forums regarding 2009 exploded into life back in March. March 20th, 2008 it was announced that BBC were taking back Formula One coverage for 2009. Almost immediately after the announcement comments began swirling around on forums, with viewpoints being heard and "randomers" having their say on BBC F1.

Since that day, we've learnt a lot about what this year's BBC F1 coverage will provide. Below are some key points (some officially confirmed, some not officially confirmed), just in case you don't wish to read through the 400+ pages of the previous thread!:

*Jake Humphrey will be presenting the show on location with David Coulthard and Eddie Jordan as pundits. Lee McKensie and Ted Kravitz will be pitlane reporters, with Martin Brundle and Jonathan Legard as commentators.
*All live race and qualifying sessions will be on BBC One.
*Four streams are expected on the Red Button for every session: 1) World Feed; 2) Onboard; 3) Data; 4) Highlights.
*There will be an option to change commentators via the Red Button from for instance TV commentary to Radio commentary.
*Rolling race repeat re-runs on the Red Button every two hours after the live broadcast.
*Practice will be live on the Red Button. Unknown yet about support races (GP2, Porsche Supercup), although Red Button coverage is expected.
*Coverage will be streamed online - races will be put on iPlayer shortly after the completed duration.
*Only downside is that there is no HD coverage.
*This is an almost certainty to be the theme. It'd be suicidal if it wasn't.
*There maybe a BBC Three preview show at 19:00 on Thursdays.
*Tentative Australian Grand Prix schedule for BBC.

I think most of the above is accurate from the previous thread, apologies in advance if there are any errors. For anyone unable to wait until March 29th, 2009, you have this countdown by your side every step of the way!

That's about it for an introduction. ITV F1 is well and truly the past. BBC F1 is the future. Roll on Australia.

NOTE: BBC DO NOT BROADCAST FORMULA 1 IN HD AS THE HOST BROADCASTER, FOM, DO NOT PRODUCE A HIGH-DEFINITION FEED!

[duke_toaster]

Originally Posted by sherer

I often wondered how the drivers got away with signing these exclusive contracts for on the grid. Surely there must be something in Bernie's \ FOM contracts that would exclude this and if you just shoved a mike in his face how stupid does a driver want to look by standing there in silence

Not just in Bernie's or FOM's contracts. It's in black, white and PDF in the sporting regulations.

Originally Posted by Article 35.1

... Drivers must be available at all reasonable times during an Event to talk to the media as required by the FIA press delegate.

I thought there was another rule that banned contracts requiring drivers to only speak to one press group, but I can't find it. Maybe it's gone for 2009?

[the_sniper89]

Just a couple of notes...

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

*Four streams are expected on the Red Button for every session: 1) World Feed; 2) Onboard; 3) Data; 4) Highlights.

I would just add something about freeview being limited to two streams, which will most likely limit those viewers to the onboard and data channels during the race (if there are not clashes with other events i.e. Wimbledon), then after the race rolling replays (or is it highlights?).

Originally Posted by D.M.N

*Probable BBC Three preview show at 19:00 on Thursdays.

I wouldn't use probably, I would say 'There may be a BBC Three...'

Apart from those minor sniggles, very well done D.M.N.

[dansus]

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Not just in Bernie's or FOM's contracts. It's in black, white and PDF in the sporting regulations.

I thought there was another rule that banned contracts requiring drivers to only speak to one press group, but I can't find it. Maybe it's gone for 2009?

Maybe thats why everyone is signing up exclusives.

Question is.. why would you be so selfish to do it, not as if they need the cash.

[D.M.N.]

Originally Posted by the_sniper89

I would just add something about freeview being limited to two streams, which will most likely limit those viewers to the onboard and data channels during the race (if there are not clashes with other events i.e. Wimbledon), then after the race rolling replays (or is it highlights?).

Do we know that Freeview will be limited for definite then?

Originally Posted by the_sniper89

I wouldn't use probably, I would say 'There may be a BBC Three...'

Better change it while I can!

Originally Posted by dansus

Maybe thats why everyone is signing up exclusives.

Question is.. why would you be so selfish to do it, not as if they need the cash.

I wonder if BBC will do the same with Lewis then? Although Martin would get bored interviewing Lewis every race methinks....

[Neken]

Originally Posted by dansus

Question is.. why would you be so selfish to do it, not as if they need the cash.

Partisan questions?
Alonso in 2007 was much more likely to get tougher questions from the GB press than the Spanish for example.

[skeggysteve]

Originally Posted by FoxFanatic

Per Charles Sale in the Daily Mail

Brundle might walk
Motor racing pundit Martin Brundle (right) is in discussion with the BBC's new Formula One production team as to how his celebrated prerace grid walk from his ITV days can best be revamped next season.

Brundle has his doubts whether the unrehearsed and unscripted interviews will continue to work, especially as the drivers - with other arranged media commitments while on the grid - are becoming increasingly reluctant to chat.
The likelihood is that the Beeb will cherry pick the best races for the Brundle walk.

I'm not to bothered about Martin talking to the drivers, they all say the same boring stuff - well apart from one who made a slightly different comment/statement

What I did like was when Martin talked to the technical people, they tended to be a bit more open.

Although some people didn't find it funny I alway laughed when Bernie introduce Martin to some random King/minor royal or the like!

D.M.N
Even though I follow the thread you summary was great, thanks. thanks.

[duke_toaster]

Lewis Hamilton doesn't do pre-race interviews to anyone. I'd rather they got a few members of team personell e.g. Martin Whitmarsh as they can provide something insightful if the conditions are interesting.

[f_196]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

I wonder if BBC will do the same with Lewis then? Although Martin would get bored interviewing Lewis every race methinks....

He's not the only one...

[sherer]

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Not just in Bernie's or FOM's contracts. It's in black, white and PDF in the sporting regulations.



I thought there was another rule that banned contracts requiring drivers to only speak to one press group, but I can't find it. Maybe it's gone for 2009?

yes I remember when MS did it first I read it was against the rules but then he always was allowed to break the rules

So as it's a FIA rule you are allowed to break it unless you are a McLaren driver

[_SpeedRacer_]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

Do we know that Freeview will be limited for definite then?

Freeview will be limited by whatever other simultaneous events are ongoing.

Although it's not for a LONG time, it will be interesting to see what happens to F1 during the World Cup next year.

[duke_toaster]

During the Olympics MotoGP was bumped to BBCi.

Bernie would try to hold the races when it is not on (as done for the Olympics). As in the World Cup few matches take place at the same time, and if they do one will be on BBC and the other on ITV, there is always BBC2 available.

[D.M.N.]

Originally Posted by _SpeedRacer_

it will be interesting to see what happens to F1 during the World Cup next year.

BBC Two?

EDIT: duke_toaster beat me to it!

[gordo19]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

For anyone wishing to go back in time:
*2008 thread
2002 to 2007 thread

2009 - Here We Come!
Formula One in 2008 saw a year of high's and low's with controversy and on off the track covering key figures within the sport. In the end, when the chequered flag came down for the final race in Brazil, Lewis Hamilton won the 2008 Formula One Drivers' Championship, beating rival Felipe Massa by a single point.

2009 will be a tough year for all the drivers, with the introduction of the "KERS" system. The cars' find themselves getting a "makeover" - they may not look asthetically pleasing, but promise to bring overtaking back to Formula One.

Even though we've only just turned into 2009, discussion within this forum and many other forums regarding 2009 exploded into life back in March. March 20th, 2008 it was announced that BBC were taking back Formula One coverage for 2009. Almost immediately after the announcement comments began swirling around on forums, with viewpoints being heard and "randomers" having their say on BBC F1.

Since that day, we've learnt a lot about what this year's BBC F1 coverage will provide. Below are some key points (some officially confirmed, some not officially confirmed), just in case you don't wish to read through the 400+ pages of the previous thread!:

*Jake Humphrey will be presenting the show on location with David Coulthard and Eddie Jordan as pundits. Lee McKensie and Ted Kravitz will be pitlane reporters, with Martin Brundle and Jonathan Legard as commentators.
*All live race and qualifying sessions will be on BBC One.
*Four streams are expected on the Red Button for every session: 1) World Feed; 2) Onboard; 3) Data; 4) Highlights.
*There will be an option to change commentators via the Red Button from for instance TV commentary to Radio commentary.
*Rolling race repeat re-runs on the Red Button every two hours after the live broadcast.
*Practice will be live on the Red Button. Unknown yet about support races (GP2, Porsche Supercup), although Red Button coverage is expected.
*Coverage will be streamed online - races will be put on iPlayer shortly after the completed duration.
*Only downside is that there is no HD coverage.
*This is an almost certainty to be the theme. It'd be suicidal if it wasn't.
*There maybe a BBC Three preview show at 19:00 on Thursdays.
*Tentative Australian Grand Prix schedule for BBC.

I think most of the above is accurate from the previous thread, apologies in advance if there are any errors. For anyone unable to wait until March 29th, 2009, you have this countdown by your side every step of the way!

That's about it for an introduction. ITV F1 is well and truly the past. BBC F1 is the future. Roll on Australia.

Great post and this should be the 1st topic on the new 2009 thread since we are now in 2009.

Suggest you re-post it, after everyone on here does the same as me and quote your whole post and tell the mods that its time to allow us to open a 2009 topic

[D.M.N.]

Originally Posted by gordo19

Great post and this should be the 1st topic on the new 2009 thread since we are now in 2009.

Suggest you re-post it, after everyone on here does the same as me and quote your whole post and tell the mods that its time to allow us to open a 2009 topic

It's alright, I messaged a mod straight after.

Welcome to the new home for another year.

[davepusey]

Thanks for the list of apps guys, but i couldnt get any to do exactly what i wanted. Anyway, after lots of tinkering with mythfrontend command line switches i've managed to get this onto my 15" portable panel...

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...ive-15inch.png

That's BBC ONE at the top for the world feed, and 301 and 302 at the bottom for timing and onboard. (onboard on the left, timing on the right).

Also, all three streams, along with R5L, are being recording to disk at the same time.

This seems to work much better than the "record the entire mux" plan i had a while back.

And before you say a 15" panel is rather small, this is only for the early morning (Japan, China, etc.) races. I can put the small panel on a little trolley and wheel it next to my bed. For the lunchtime races (europe, singapore, etc.) i will have a similar layout on the 22" widescreen panel on my desk.

So, what do you all think? Good? Bad? Suggesstions?

[_SpeedRacer_]

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

During the Olympics MotoGP was bumped to BBCi.

Bernie would try to hold the races when it is not on (as done for the Olympics). As in the World Cup few matches take place at the same time, and if they do one will be on BBC and the other on ITV, there is always BBC2 available.

I don't think qualifying/race will be a problem, I was thinking of all the extra things like practice, extra feeds, support races etc

[simonp820]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

[i]*All live race and qualifying sessions will be on BBC One.

This is good - I was concerned qualifying would get bumped to the red button.

What happens if there's a footie match on Saturday afternoon that clashes though? Or does BBC not have any more football?!

[davepusey]

If there is one race that they have to do a gridwalk for it is Monaco. It's just awesome to see MB and his cameraman (Andy i think his name was) trying to squeeze there way along the grid. Made great viewing!

[sherer]

well to the 2009 thread everyone

[jb26]

Just tidying up a few loose ends.

No announcement is expected before January 19th.

Suzi Perry, Jake Humphrey, Adrian Chiles, Gabby Logan and Jonathan Legard were the only candidates seriously considered for the role of anchor. All others were purely speculation.

Ted Kravitz' job title will be 'F1 analyst', although he will be based in the pits. I wonder if this title has anything to do with those graphics which appeared on a Brazilian test broadcast which I mentioned at the time?

Terms couldn't be agreed with Peter Windsor for him to join as a pit reporter.

Adam Parsons decision to leave BBC News to join the BOA as Director of Communication and Public Affairs, was as a direct result of not being part of the F1 coverage in anything other than the proposed 'Motor Racing Correspondent' role. (Although Mihir Bose' appointment as Sports Editor a couple of years back may also have had something to do with it). The role will be London based and candidates are still being considered.

Finally, the following may just be general speculation, but apparently of all the past/present ITV onscreen team, Martin Brundle, Ted Kravitz, Charlotte Webster, Mark Blundell, Lee McKenzie and Tony Jardine all applied to form part of the coverage. Steve Rider, James Allen and Louise Goodman were never considered, nor did they apply. I assume this is how Webster got her foot in the door at BBC East.

[D.M.N.]

Originally Posted by jb26

Finally, the following may just be general speculation, but apparently of all the past/present ITV onscreen team, Martin Brundle, Ted Kravitz, Charlotte Webster, Mark Blundell, Lee McKenzie and Tony Jardine all applied to form part of the coverage. Steve Rider, James Allen and Louise Goodman were never considered, nor did they apply. I assume this is how Webster got her foot in the door at BBC East.

She 'avin a laugh?!!

On a slightly related note *cough* A1GP's final round is now in Interlagos >> http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72626

[FoxFanatic]

Question for JB. Do you expect DC and Eddie to be at every race or is there a chance there may be guest pundits from time to time.

[jb26]

What about Allen not even applying to form part of the coverage?

Originally Posted by FoxFanatic

Question for JB. Do you expect DC and Eddie to be at every race or is there a chance there may be guest pundits from time to time.

They'll be there 99% of the time, you may see somebody else occasionally joining them or if somebody is ill or similar circumstances.

[D.M.N.]

Originally Posted by jb26

What about Allen not even applying to form part of the coverage?

I wasn't surprised at that. I don't think he's a fool to realise that it'd be rejected and it'd cause outrage within motor racing related forums.

Just wondering. Were there any other motorsport pundits (non ITV F1) that applied beyond Windsor? I know there was someone that was a member of the Ten Tenths forum (I know his name, but it's gone out of my head) that applied, but he was rejected.