Grinderman 'turned Bad Seeds upside down'

Nick Cave has claimed that forming Grinderman has turned the Bad Seeds "upside down".

Grinderman is made up of Cave together with his Bad Seeds bandmates Warren Ellis, Martyn Casey and Jim Sclavunos. The band release their second album Grinderman 2 on September 13.

Discussing the impact of founding the spinoff group, Cave told The Guardian: "It just had a kind of cataclysmic effect, you know? It just turned things upside down. For me, sonically, there was just too much going on in the Bad Seeds.

"There's a sound that's really unique to them, this kind of monstrous sound, and there's nothing I like more than going onstage with them and having this monstrous kind of thing about me."

He continued: "But something had happened where it felt really difficult to make a record like The Boatman's Call again, where you could go in and say, all right, this is basically piano and drums and bass, everybody sit back.

"It felt like every time I took a song into the Bad Seeds, everyone piled in on it. In the Bad Seeds, you play a song, and everyone's grabbing a f**kin' maraca, y'know?"

Cave added: "There's a comfortability with the Bad Seeds that Grinderman disrupts. That's what's chaotic about Grinderman. I get very different responses to it from my very close friends, from my colleagues, people I work with.

"Some love it, some are baffled by it. Some are like flat-out 'What the f**k are you doing?' which is exciting to me. There's a pressure with the Bad Seeds that I don't feel in Grinderman. Within the Bad Seeds there is a sense of duty for me to the band's legacy."