While in the garden, Josie asked the Welshman about the different sorts of people that attend his services.
"Have you ever met any devil worshippers Dave?" she asked.
"Oh yeah," replied David, explaining that he once met a man whose face "morphed" into a werewolf in front on him.
John James and JJ started to laugh and suggested that the minister was winding them up.
David insisted that he was not and went on to talk about the "spirit realm" and people that he had seen levitate.
"Let's stick with the werewolves," John James insisted, saying that if such things had happened they would have been seen around the world on the news.
"If you can show me someone that can transform into a werewolf in front of my face, I will chop my head off," John James declared.
David explained that many of the people he had met who were spiritual were private people and would not want media attention, before continuing to talk about devil worshippers. "They would regularly make themselves go invisible," he said.
"Like the Fantastic Four!" joked John James. "You could be a stand up comedian with this sort of material," he continued.
David maintained that he was not joking. "You can laugh all you want," he replied.
"You think it's got to be seen... I'm just saying that there is a realm there that people are touching on, that is very, very real... You wrap yourself up in your world... doesn't mean it's not real and doesn’t exist," David explained, accusing the Australian and JJ of mocking him.
"I'm not mocking you," defended JJ.
"I am willing to be open-minded to things that I can see," John James responded.
David told John James that he had not listened to what he had been saying and instead chose to laugh at him. "All you can do is rip into me... That goes to show that you are not open John," David stated.