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'Made In Chelsea' Spencer Matthews Q&A: This series will be explosive

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Right, Made In Chelsea starts on Monday - Monday! - and so we're already prepping for awkward silences and hilarious glances. But since we've still got a few hours to kill, we thought we'd bring you our little chat with Spencer Matthews.

We tracked him down at a photoshoot after speaking to Proudlock and Jamie so read on to find out what he had to say about Millie (gulp), Louise (aww), his book, whether Hugo could come back and why the show might sort of be getting a bit more like EastEnders...

Spencer Matthews arriving for the 2013 National Television Awards at the O2 Arena, London.

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Spencer



Hi Spencer - you're looking very sharp today!
"Thank you very much! Well, you know, photoshoot - you have to make an effort."

You don't seem to have as much make-up on as Jamie and Proudlock, though.
"Jamie always wears make-up! He came with make-up and had more make-up put on, so obviously he's going to look caked."

So, I have to get this out of the way because I think everyone is still reeling from that slap from Millie. Did you ever see that coming?
"It messed up my hair, which pissed me off beyond belief! No, obviously I didn't see it coming - I didn't make the slightest effort to move. It kind of came out of the blue. I guess I wasn't expecting it from her as it's not really her business, so I didn't really have my guard up at the time. But yeah, I'm glad that everything's out in the open. I'm glad we were able to resolve things as well and continue with our relationship."

What is your relationship with Millie like now?
"It was never good anyway, to be honest. We used to be very close friends. I'm not one to hold grudges or bitch, but Millie in particular is someone that I don't particularly care for. We used to be very close when we were 16, 17, and I think at the risk of sounding bitchy, I think the show changes certain people and it changed her. I'm not going to be the one that makes the effort."

How do you think it's changed her?
"She's just become a different person. But anyway, let's not make the interview about Millie. Millie's not someone I care about, and I'm very happy for her to get on with her life and do whatever she pleases, but she's not a concern of mine."

The National Television Awards (NTA's) 2013 held at the O2 arena - Arrivals
Featuring: Spencer Matthews and Louise Thompson
Where: London, England, United Kingdom

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Spencer and Louise



What about Louise? At the reunion we saw you were back together - what's the status with you guys?
"We're very happy. We've just got back from holiday - we went to St Barts and New York, which was very fun and lovely. Obviously, I wasn't the best behaved person towards the end of last year, and I'm glad that it's all out in the open now and that we were able to resolve things. So yeah, we're very happy. We had a fantastic holiday and we're looking forward to seeing what the future holds with us."

Did you ever wish during that time that you weren't on Made In Chelsea? That it wasn't all over television?
"Ultimately, it's always best to tell the truth. Sometimes, when people make certain mistakes, it's very difficult to own up to it. If I had told her, I could have lost her, and I love her. Obviously it was an issue. Without the show and without the cameras and without the constant affiliation with people that you might not necessarily spend so much time with, she could have never found out, but I'm glad that she did because now there's no skeletons in the closet and we can have an honest and happy relationship."

As well as Millie and Louise, Andy was a bit of a problem for you last series. What's your relationship with him like now?
"I wouldn't really call it a problem. I mean, his persistence kind of astounded me. You know, if I was into his girlfriend and he goes, 'Mate, I'm going out with her', I'd probably just back off. But it's fine, you know. I actually really like Andy and of course he's a really good-looking guy, he's a well-bred individual, so I'd be foolish not to feel somewhat threatened. But it's not in my nature to feel threatened by anyone, so I didn't, really.

"I genuinely didn't really take it to heart that much. I guess I turned to wrath a little bit, the anger kind of extended a couple of times, but only because he was just really persistent on a closed matter."

Yeah, he never really backed off, I guess.
"It was just a bit weird at the time. But we're very close friends now. Who knows what's going to happen in the future?"

What about the other guys? Is your bromance still strong with Proudlock and Jamie?
"The bromance is still very strong. We're all good. We're actually potentially moving in together."

Spencer Matthews, Jamie Laing, Oliver Proudlock
'Made In Chelsea' stars at Kingdom Of Sweets in The Lakeside Shopping Centre
Essex, England

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Spencer with Jamie and Proudlock



Yeah, there was some talk last season about that...
"Yeah, we're looking at that. I mean, I'm very comfortable where I'm living at the moment, but Jamie mentioned something about moving in together, so I might do that, or I'd like to do that. They're my two closest friends so it would be cool. I'm not sure how it would be under the same roof with the show on and off - it is 100% real but obviously we then have our real lives without cameras so it might be a bit of an overdose of Jamie. But we'll see."

How could you have an overdose of Jamie?
"Quite easily!"

You and Jamie have had some tough times in the past - are you all good now?
"Jamie and I always kind of resolve [stuff]. Anything that stands between our friendship tends to get resolved pretty quickly. We had our differences but in the first place we shouldn't have been fighting over a girl anyway, especially somebody I've got so much history with - I mean, it was a recipe for disaster in the first place, so I think we've learnt our lesson from that. I can't see that happening again."

What can you tell us about what's coming up for you this series?
"We never really know what's coming up because obviously we just play it by ear. It's 100% real and we take things as [they] come, so it's difficult to know what's going to happen. We've got some new cast members joining and I've met them briefly - they seem great. It's always interesting when you introduce new guys or new girls to an industry such as ours or a show such as ours, because you know it's going to kind of make and break relationships, isn't it? That's the kind of point behind the drama, isn't it? So I don't know - it should be interesting."

Are you ever worried about new people joining? About how it could disrupt the dynamic on the show and the relationships?
"I mean, it completely depends. People could be in love for years and then meet someone and it completely changes. I'm not saying that that's at all on the cards, I'm just saying I'm very much open-ended in the fact that you never know what's going to happen tomorrow. I don't know - that's what makes the show interesting and that's what makes it so watchable, because new people, new dynamics, new characters mean that you've got new people to meet and understand and get to know, and it just creates a whole new sense to what is already a quite dramatic environment. It's only going to get bigger."

Spencer Matthews and Oliver Proudlock at a point to point seen on  'Made In Chelsea', shown on E4

Spencer with Proudlock



How long do you think you'll stay with Made In Chelsea? I mean, you did The Bachelor...
"I think that The Bachelor, it was obviously a discussion at the time [whether I would stay on Made In Chelsea]. I don't think that The Bachelor had any kind of negative effect on my kind of personality to do with Made In Chelsea. The Bachelor was very much in tune with my character, who I am, so all it's going to do really is if The Bachelor is hugely successful, it'll pull some people who haven't seen Made In Chelsea into Made In Chelsea. It's not a bad thing for the show. Some shows would be detrimental, and in that particular case, I don't think it was."

Obviously Hugo left and we saw you guys used to be together all the time - do you miss filming with him?
"He's my backbone, so of course I miss him. I feel limp without him - not in a sexual way! He was always the person that kind of backed me up and made me feel better about my stupid mistakes, which I tend to make quite frequently. I was with him last night, actually - we're very close and he's getting on with his life now obviously, as he was in the show, but just not on the show. He's doing really well."

Do you ever try to persuade him to come back?
"I did ask him last night if he would be interested in kind of doing a scene or something with me, and he seemed quite open to the idea. I don't know what production would think about that, but he seemed fairly open to the idea. He's a lovely guy and I really miss him on the show. I think he was a really staple character. My first ever scene was with Hugo in the Land Rover going to see the infamous Caggie Dunlop at Raffles. I do miss him in terms of the show - I miss working with him and filming with him. It was always a very easy job."

Ex-Made in Chelsea cast member Hugo Taylor

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Hugo



I heard you're writing a book - what's that all about?
"I am! Who would have thought it? My English teacher certainly wouldn't have. Yep, it's out pretty soon. I can tell you offhand it will not be called Confessions of a Ladykiller. I have never heard that title! I really dislike it - it will not be called that. I read the Daily Mail, and apparently I'm learning about my own book on the Daily Mail. I was like, 'Oh, is it going to be called that? I didn't know that!' It's definitely not going to be called that. It'll probably be called something like Short and Sweet So Far - something self-deprecating, being 24. But yeah, it's pretty interesting.

"I don't want anyone to take it too seriously. It's very easy for people to think I'm being all pretentious and arrogant writing a book at my age, but it's just a kind of amusing - well, hopefully amusing - kind of take on a slightly different life to certain other people so far. Our target audience is kind of 14 to 18 - obviously it varies, but our core audience is quite young. Back when I was a kid, I would have loved to have found out what Brody Jenner or Spencer Pratt was up to. I don't know, I just thought it would be interesting to kind of document it as well. It's something to have for the future."

Are you worried about what your other Made In Chelsea co-stars will think about what you've written?
"I'm going to be awful. I'm going to tell the absolute truth, so they'd better watch out!"

No holds barred?
"Yeah, no, they better be nice to me! We'll see. I don't think anyone will be offended. It's very much just my take on things, and obviously if I had something bad to say I'm not going to say it. It'll be a lighthearted read."

The cast of 'Made in Chelsea' at the launch of 'Halo 4'

Spencer with Proudlock, Francis and Jamie



Jamie and Proudlock were saying that you all watch the show together. That must be awkward.
"Yeah, it can be. It's just sometimes you say certain things that you might not necessarily mean, and then you're watching the screening sitting next to the person that you've just been like, 'Oh, you're such a dick'. It's like, 'Sorry mate!' No, I don't know. It's interesting. I think that everyone kind of knows how the show works now and they know the dynamic of it, and it's not something to be taken to heart.

"I haven't read my Twitter mentions in four months or something - I don't see the point. They're fine now - when we're off air, they're all really good, so I hear. But I don't see the point. I welcome people's opinions and it's a good kind of popularity gauge, I guess, Twitter. But it's just people who comment on people who don't know them nor will ever meet them. It's just an opinion that isn't really valued, I think. It's great - it's what keeps the show going - but some people take it to heart.

"Louise, for example - some people are like, 'How can you do that? How can you do that?' And she spends hours worrying about it. It's like, 'Well, why do you care what Joe from Berkshire says?' I don't really get it. Comments are most certainly welcome, but negative comments kind of fall on deaf ears when it comes to me."

Is that the worst thing about being on the show, the negative comments?
"In person I haven't experienced any negativity, so it really doesn't bother me. Twitter, for example, is something that you choose to read or not. If you read it and it upsets you, don't read it. Simple. That's how I kind of operate."

Is there anything that's been on the show that you wish you could go back and erase?
"Oh my God, loads! I don't know - the show's kind of like a catalyst to your life. It just speeds up the process with which people find stuff out and with which people hear your opinion. Sometimes things are just best kept to yourself or sometimes you just don't want to tell someone what you actually think of them or whatever - but you have to, because that's what creates interesting drama and it's what makes the show so watchable. Obviously I've had one too many drinks at some point and said something or acted in a certain way where I watch it back and go, 'Oh, I wish I hadn't done that'. I think that's only natural. You'd be a pretty boring character if that wasn't the case, I think."

Made in Chelsea: Sophia, Stevie, Andy, Sam, Ianthe

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Some of the other Made In Chelsea stars



I always think when I watch the show that people don't talk this openly often.
"Yeah - well, if someone's hitting on your girlfriend you wouldn't necessarily be in the room, do you know what I mean? It's kind of like you have to witness everything and always be there. It's fun to look back at how it all operates, but it's surprising how real it is. Going into it, I always thought there'll be a lot of production elements to this - it'll be this and that people write stuff for you. It's just not like that. Literally, this season is going to be so explosive because everyone's so used to it now and there's some genuine love, genuine friendship, genuine hatred. It's going to be pretty eruptive, I think. I personally think season five is going to be the best season yet."

Jamie and Proudlock were saying it gets pretty dark at times.
"It's pretty dark! It's pretty dark, to say the least. I think, you know, I'm somewhat involved in the darkness. I can't say too much about it, obviously, but yeah - it's going to make for some pretty intense viewing."

They were hinting maybe some secrets are coming out...
"There's some stuff that should have been kept unsaid, I think, yep. But it'll be great. I think from a personal point of view I've kind of had enough with tiptoeing around certain people and not saying certain things, so I've just spoken my mind 100% this series. It's been quite reactive in certain cases, but I thought it would be better just to get everything off my chest early on, considering the events of the Christmas special."

So we can expect some big arguments?
"Yes you can, yep. That's one thing I can tell you - there are some large arguments. It's pretty full on. We're currently about half way through [filming] or something, but so far, if the second half is anything like the first, it'll make for some pretty dynamic viewing."

At least you have the parties to look forward to.
"There's some elements of fun... it's pretty dark though, this series! Obviously there's a lot of fun and good music and close friendships and love and stuff, but I think the 'end of' part in most episodes is going to be really quite savage."

Spencer Matthews, DSTRKT nightclub, Rihanna fashion launch, after party, London

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Spencer



Kind of like you could have the EastEnders music going?
"Hopefully not the EastEnders music, but yeah! A similar genre, yeah. It is more like EastEnders now than ever - houses burning down, people dying, you know, pubs run out of lager... No, it'll be good. I'm looking forward to watching this series, actually."

You just mentioned lager - I'm always fascinated by all the fancy drinks you guys have. Ever just want a beer?
"I drink beer regularly, as you can probably tell by my fat appearance! But yeah, I mean, fancy cocktails are fancy cocktails, aren't they? I mean, part of that - let's be realistic - is because they look nice for cameras, isn't it? I mean, obviously if you're Jamie you're going to order something with some little straw hat and an umbrella in it, because that's the kind of thing he likes, but I think the majority of us just have vodka sodas and beers, pretty standard."

Jamie was telling me he likes cucumber sours...
"Oh, he's such a bellend! Cucumber sours? He's watched too much Entourage. Someone says in Entourage at some point that in order to be memorable, you need to order something really weird... I think, yeah, Jamie lives in a bit of a different world to us. Although cucumber sours are pretty damn good - I don't know what I'm saying! I don't think it's a regular drink of his."

Celebrities outside Rose Club in London
Featuring: Spencer Matthews,Jamie Lang
Where: London, United Kingdom
When: 18 Jan 2013

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Spencer with Jamie



So what's the best thing about being on Made In Chelsea?
"The best thing is having a bit of a flexible schedule. It's nice - it's not boring, it's never boring, it's never dull. You get to work with your best friends. The production team, Monkey Kingdom, are really nice to work with - actual proper mates. I see production off camera quite a lot just for catch ups and drinks. It's a very different job to what I've had in the past.

"I worked in finance for five years - that's obviously very regulated, very serious, up at 5.45 every day, out of the office at six every day. It's just different - it personally suits me. I don't know, it looks and sounds easy - it looks like we're just partying and going round getting filmed. There's a lot of work that goes into it. As real as it is - the storylines are 100% genuine - it is a proper job. It's tiring, it's mentally quite exhausting.

"It's quite difficult for certain people to not live in a state of constant panic because you know that if you walk into a scene, when you get used to it you can tell by the camera setup if someone else is going to come into the scene - I can, anyway, now. It's always funny watching the new characters standing in a situation where you know that someone's coming in. It's just like lambs to the slaughter. Now I'm constantly looking over my shoulder the entire time in every scene.

"I was filming abroad yesterday, actually - I can't mention where - and literally every single time I heard footsteps anywhere I was like, 'Gasp!' You just never know who's walking in - Louise could be in a flowerpot. It's quite full on."

So why should we be excited about the new season of Made In Chelsea?
"Made In Chelsea's just gone from strength to strength. Most series can become boring - Made In Chelsea has literally just got better and better. New characters, new energy, new stories, and new drama. It's going to be epic, this series."

Made In Chelsea returns with its new series on Monday (April 8) at 10pm on E4.

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